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Where is America in Biblical Prophecy?
The Ignorant Fishermen Blog ^ | 4/22/10 | DJP I.F.

Posted on 04/22/2010 7:27:29 PM PDT by The Ignorant Fisherman

A resounding question asked by many today is, “Where is America in Biblical prophecy?” The simple answer is that our nation will still exist, but our military power and socio-economic position will have been reduced into a godless, base nation at that time. When Christ calls His Church out of the world by means of the Rapture, our nation will implode on itself (2 Thess. 2:7). Any remnant of restraint by Conservatives will then be removed, and our demise will arise by means of civil war and lawlessness - even nuclear destruction - to a state of total social collapse and anarchy. The prophetic words and warnings of our Founding Fathers against the violation of Almighty God’s natural laws will come to pass. America will reap a whirlwind of consequences from her godless doings, and tyranny and oppression will fill the vacuum once filled with justice and the rule of

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The Bible has the answers. We are there...but...it's not good.
1 posted on 04/22/2010 7:27:29 PM PDT by The Ignorant Fisherman
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

Somewhere just prior to Ezekiel chapter 38.

Read it... look around... get ready... It’s coming!


2 posted on 04/22/2010 7:30:41 PM PDT by Safrguns
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman
Not to mention the turning our back on Israel. Obama is not the Antichrist but he is the beginning of the end.
3 posted on 04/22/2010 7:31:49 PM PDT by fish hawk
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To: Safrguns

exactly... all will shift to the middle east...

http://www.theignorantfishermen.com/2008/07/sets-in-west-and-rises-in-east.html


4 posted on 04/22/2010 7:35:10 PM PDT by The Ignorant Fisherman
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

No where.


5 posted on 04/22/2010 7:35:32 PM PDT by fkabuckeyesrule
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

bump and thanks


6 posted on 04/22/2010 7:35:35 PM PDT by two23
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To: fish hawk
exactly... the left has shown by their deeds that they will kick Israel (the apple of God's eye) to the curb...Obama has shown that even now... That table is set my Friend!!!
7 posted on 04/22/2010 7:36:25 PM PDT by The Ignorant Fisherman
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To: fish hawk

Obama is not the Antichrist but he is the beginning of the end.


(1) I believe there will be more than one antichrist.

(2) obama puppetmaster George Soros scares me.


8 posted on 04/22/2010 7:36:52 PM PDT by boycott (CAL)
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

I hope I’m wrong - but I believe America is covered under God’s promise to destroy any country who tries to remove the conflict about Jerusalem from the world - the exact policy that Hussein, The Brazen Usurper is pressing today! See previous posts, particularly Ezechiel.


9 posted on 04/22/2010 7:38:38 PM PDT by J Edgar
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

I have heard some say we are the goat.......flame away, I was just trying to provide an option for someone looking for answers.


10 posted on 04/22/2010 7:40:22 PM PDT by proudtobeanamerican1 (A house divided against itself cannot stand.” Abraham Lincoln)
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To: fkabuckeyesrule

I agree.


11 posted on 04/22/2010 7:40:23 PM PDT by James C. Bennett
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman; humblegunner

I don’t know where it is in Biblical prophesy, but it’s right here in my Atlas. In fact, I’m standing on it. It’s got buildings and sidewalks and everything.

So I assume God knew about it.


12 posted on 04/22/2010 7:42:50 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: J Edgar

Yawn. The world is coming to an end - again...


13 posted on 04/22/2010 7:43:00 PM PDT by NotThere
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

>>> exactly... all will shift to the middle east...

Well, I sort of misread the thread title question.

If the question is where are we (all nations) as in a timeline, that I think is the answer... just before Ezek 38 where Russia and Iran get PWNED by God for trying to invade Israel.

If the question is where is America in prophesy,
the answer is NOWHERE!


14 posted on 04/22/2010 7:43:48 PM PDT by Safrguns
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To: boycott

I have to keep reminding myself that God is in control.No matter how bad things look,no matter how evil seems to flourish,He is in control.


15 posted on 04/22/2010 7:43:52 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop thinking about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: NotThere

>>> Yawn. The world is coming to an end - again...

Actually, the bible never says that the world is going to come to an end... on the contrary, the bible says it will be a world WITHOUT end... Amen.


16 posted on 04/22/2010 7:45:24 PM PDT by Safrguns
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To: proudtobeanamerican1

Dan 8:8 Therefore the he goatH6842 H5795 waxed very great:H1431 H5704 H3966 and when he was strong,H6105 the greatH1419 hornH7161 was broken;H7665 and forH8478 it came upH5927 fourH702 notable onesH2380 toward the fourH702 windsH7307 of heaven.H8064


17 posted on 04/22/2010 7:46:13 PM PDT by proudtobeanamerican1 (A house divided against itself cannot stand.” Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Farmer Dean

I have to keep reminding myself that God is in control.No matter how bad things look,no matter how evil seems to flourish,He is in control.


No doubt. God is in control.

I sometimes want to worry about things but .....

Matthew 24:6 You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come.

Luke 21:9 When you hear of wars and revolutions, do not be frightened. These things must happen first, but the end will not come right away.”

Matthew 6:27 Who of you by worrying can add a single hour to his life?


18 posted on 04/22/2010 7:52:40 PM PDT by boycott (CAL)
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

0bummer is fullfilling his destiny to ensure that the USA is a non-factor in the End Times. Additionally, the US will lose nearly 65MM functional, productive people as the initial signal of the End Times. 0bummer’s government will convulse immediately in to headless chicken mode. Their clueless reaction to the loss will seal the fate of those, Left Behind.


19 posted on 04/22/2010 7:53:32 PM PDT by j_tull (I may make you feel, but I can't make you think.)
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

Isn’t America the New Jerusalem?
I have heard some evangelicals refer to America as the new Jerusalem of the bible (Revelations)


20 posted on 04/22/2010 7:54:42 PM PDT by two23
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman
It does not take many people who love and serve God, to make a difference. People are addicted to the narcotic influence of the forbidden fruit. They believe their impure desires and false opinions will let them run things like little tin gods.

We are very close to the anointing by fire. Only the pure in heart can stand in the transmutation fires of God's love. It is a fire ark we must build at this time.

Let not your heart be troubled. The LORD provides the means for those who love and serve Him. The LORD God walks with us in the Way.

21 posted on 04/22/2010 7:55:24 PM PDT by Armaggedon
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To: Safrguns

The Bible says the Earth will be destroyed, and then there will be a new heaven and a new Earth.


22 posted on 04/22/2010 7:58:39 PM PDT by LiteKeeper ("It's the peoples' seat!")
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To: J Edgar

America will go against Israel in that Day... but it will be not the same America that you and I once have known my friend. It will be the godless Bazarro America.


23 posted on 04/22/2010 7:59:42 PM PDT by The Ignorant Fisherman
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To: Armaggedon

“Let not your heart be troubled...”
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I wish Hannity would quit bastardizing this part of God’s Word!

This twit says it as a commercial marker!


24 posted on 04/22/2010 8:00:07 PM PDT by Artcore
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To: Safrguns

I also believe it will be before Ez 38,39. I think we are done in in Rev 6:1-8. We will be a casality of the 4 Horsemen. 1/4 the worlds population destroyed!..Shazam!! We have to be in that carnage.


25 posted on 04/22/2010 8:02:22 PM PDT by The Ignorant Fisherman
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To: Armaggedon

We are there... but Almighty God is our hope!! Amen!


26 posted on 04/22/2010 8:03:27 PM PDT by The Ignorant Fisherman
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To: Artcore
The statement was made by our Lord Jesus Christ. It is true. Blessed are the pure of heart for they shall see God. It can work for Hannity or anyone who will let it happen.
27 posted on 04/22/2010 8:04:08 PM PDT by Armaggedon
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To: Artcore
The statement was made by our Lord Jesus Christ. It is true. Blessed are the pure of heart for they shall see God. It can work for Hannity or anyone who will let it happen.
28 posted on 04/22/2010 8:04:09 PM PDT by Armaggedon
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

>>> We will be a casality of the 4 Horsemen. 1/4 the worlds population destroyed!..Shazam!! We have to be in that carnage.

Who is “We”?

Sorry... I won’t be around for that party.


29 posted on 04/22/2010 8:06:26 PM PDT by Safrguns
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman
Where is America in Biblical Prophecy?

It aint. What's that tell ya?

30 posted on 04/22/2010 8:07:47 PM PDT by rae4palin (RESIST--REPEAL--IMPEACH)
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To: Safrguns
If the question is where is America in prophesy, the answer is NOWHERE!

Bible prophesy isn't about the US. IF it is about ANY nation, its strictly Israel. God has made a covenant with Israel alone. Nowhere is there any indication that there is any other country that aids Israel.

In fact, for another country to share glory with Israel, goes against all God has done or all he stands for.

God alone will protect Israel. He will make it known that HE alone is Israels protector and provider. And does not need aid from any other places. He does not share glory.

In the end, EVERY nation will turn on Israel, and by attacking Israel they will be attacking God.

Christians need to realize our "allegiance" isn't to any country or any leader. Our allegiance is to God alone.

God blessed this nation for a season, but whether now or the future, that blessing will end. That blessing is for Israel alone.

31 posted on 04/22/2010 8:11:44 PM PDT by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: boycott

The Bible claims there are many Antichrists, even in Christ’s days on earth. But scripture tells us also that there is one who is coming in our time who will call himself God and demand worship. Look for one who is preaching peace, peace, and will have little to do with women. (that lets Clinton out, LOL)


32 posted on 04/22/2010 8:38:12 PM PDT by fish hawk
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To: mountn man
Actually, since Israel is and was prophesied to be scattered throughout every country and nation, then one can't limit the blessings of Israel to a specific geography. That said, the land of Israel has it's own great and powerful blessings separate from her people. But Israel is prophesied to be scattered here in the Americas, as that is part of all nations and people.
Here's a few scattering of Israel references.

I will scatter you among the heathen, Lev. 26: 33. The Lord shall scatter thee among all people, Deut. 28: 25, 37, 64. I will deliver them to be removed to all the kingdoms of the earth, Jer. 29: 18-19. I will sift the house of Israel among all nations, Amos 9: 9 (Zech. 10: 9). Jesus was sent to the lost sheep of the house of Israel, Matt. 15: 24. I have other sheep which are not of this fold, John 10: 16.

33 posted on 04/22/2010 8:43:41 PM PDT by Ripliancum (I'm not ignoring you, just taking good counsel. - Proverbs 15:1-4)
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman
where's south America or even the isle of man in the bible? Many say that the USA is there in the bible can someone give a scripture reference for it or is this just conjecture? I can understand when the word says all the earth but I have yet to find the USA in the bible.
34 posted on 04/22/2010 8:45:21 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (Rebellion to Tyrants is Obedience to GOD! Thomas Jefferson)
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

So does the (((*HOLY BIBLE*)))) talk of the “New World” of North and South America directly or indirectly? Lots of the nay-sayers use that as a tool to disprove the Aforementioned.


35 posted on 04/22/2010 9:02:25 PM PDT by yield 2 the right
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I'll add one more reference, that I believe speaks directly to the America's as the location for some of scattered Israel.

Consider Jacob's blessing of his children prior to his death. Here is his blessing to Joseph and his seed. Note the bold verses especially.

Genesis 49:
22 ¶ Joseph is a fruitful bough, even a fruitful bough by a well; whose branches run over the wall:
23 The archers have sorely grieved him, and shot at him, and hated him:
24 But his bow abode in strength, and the arms of his hands were made strong by the hands of the mighty God of Jacob; (from thence is the shepherd, the stone of Israel:)
25 Even by the God of thy father, who shall help thee; and by the Almighty, who shall bless thee with blessings of heaven above, blessings of the deep that lieth under, blessings of the breasts, and of the womb:
26 The blessings of thy father have prevailed above the blessings of my progenitors unto the utmost bound of the everlasting hills: they shall be on the head of Joseph, and on the crown of the head of him that was separate from his brethren.

Now consider where the "everlasting hills" are... I believe they essentially run from Alaska all the way to tip of South America... longest mountain chain in the world encompassing everything including the Rockies and the Andes, which are all eventually connected.

Now, I know most here won't agree with my view, as I'm LDS and believe that Joseph's seed did inhabit the Americas in ancient times, but there's my take on it. Flame away.

36 posted on 04/22/2010 9:03:58 PM PDT by Ripliancum (I'm not ignoring you, just taking good counsel. - Proverbs 15:1-4)
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To: boycott

The Bible says there are many antichrists even today...but there is still ONE main anti-Christ, who will be revealed once the Rapture takes place. At that time the restraining influence of the Holy Spirit will be removed and the world will plunge into the 7 year Tribulation, the last 3 1/2 years which will be so horrific, that the Bible refers to it as the Great Tribulation or Jacob’s wrath. Fortunately the Lord Jesus Christ will return to the earth at the end, defeat Satan & those who took the mark of the Beast, and set up his Kingdom for 1000 years.


37 posted on 04/22/2010 9:05:56 PM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: Ripliancum
Yes, Israel is scattered. But in the end, Israel is gathered back. In the end, All the nations converge on Israel. In the end Gods shows himself to be the God of Israel.

Currently we are in the time of gentiles, or the time of the church. Soon the church age, or time of the gentiles will end, and Israel will once again be of preeminence.

As a gentile believer I understand that I have been grafted into Gods family, that I am not a natural branch. I have all the benfits of the natural branch, but I realize it was Gods grace that grafted me in. I have nothing to gloat or strut or preen. I am saved by Gods "GRACE", not by anything I have done or earned. The God of the universe CHOSE to include me into his plan. I am humbled an honored.

It is Israel who is the natural branch. They are the chosen people. They are the ones who Gods favor lies with. I have been included.

But just as I am humbled an honored to have been brought into Gods family, the Jewish people need to be humbled and honored just the same. Its the same GRACE that God extended to them, not because of their greatness or anything they've done, but simply because HE CHOSE to.

God never abandoned Israel, his prophesies say just the opposite. It will be through Israel that God will be glorified.

38 posted on 04/22/2010 9:09:49 PM PDT by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: Ripliancum
Right on. Jesus has sheep all over the world. The Great Shepard cares for them all and they can drink of the same waters of eternal life he offered to the woman of Samaria.

The Lord seeks those who will worship Him in spirit and in truth. Not just in Samaria or Jerusalem. John 4:21-24. Israel is a light unto the nations when they love and serve God. The Lord is not willing that any should perish. People choose their orientation.

We are told to shine our light. Praise the Lord and let it shine.

39 posted on 04/22/2010 9:10:10 PM PDT by Armaggedon
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

Right next to microbiology.


40 posted on 04/22/2010 9:18:56 PM PDT by HospiceNurse
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To: mountn man

Well said, I couldn’t agree more.


41 posted on 04/22/2010 9:19:20 PM PDT by Ripliancum (I'm not ignoring you, just taking good counsel. - Proverbs 15:1-4)
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

The North American Continent was unkown in Biblical times. IMHO America is not found in Scripture, because the writers did not know America existed!


42 posted on 04/22/2010 9:21:49 PM PDT by Doctor Don
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To: fkabuckeyesrule

Not true. I think America is in that little group of nations who get together in Ezekiel 38:13 to ask, [”]’Have you come to capture spoil? Have you assembled your company to seize plunder, to carry away silver and gold, to take away cattle and goods, to capture great spoil?’” America is part of the villages of Tarshish—that is to say, apparently very weak and very unimportant. The Rapture has occurred by the time of this invasion and America has been emptied of all born again Christians. Many leaders of business, society and our military are gone. Unless Obama confesses Christ as Savior, he will be here, too. As will Reid, Pelosi, Schumer, Pelosi et al, unless they have made the same profession of faith.


43 posted on 04/22/2010 9:29:18 PM PDT by righttackle44 (Is Obama an Irish, Italian or Japanese name?)
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman
Psalms 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.
44 posted on 04/22/2010 9:32:12 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

The United States may be in that carnage but the church will be gone. That is what you meant correct?


45 posted on 04/22/2010 9:34:55 PM PDT by Outlaw Woman (Control the American people? Herding cats would be easier.)
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To: Doctor Don

God knew America existed, and since the writers were writing the words of God as His prophets, then I would say the American Continent was certainly known in Biblical times. Perhaps not understood fully by His servants, but known to God.


46 posted on 04/22/2010 9:35:17 PM PDT by Ripliancum (I'm not ignoring you, just taking good counsel. - Proverbs 15:1-4)
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To: NotThere
Yawn. The world is coming to an end - again...

But there will be a new heaven & a new earth established by the Lord Jesus Christ. Someday your words of scorn & mockery will come back to haunt you, perhaps throughout eternity.

II Peter 3:3-9
3:3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
3:4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
3:5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
3:6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
3:7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance
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47 posted on 04/22/2010 9:41:17 PM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

bookmark


48 posted on 04/22/2010 9:42:02 PM PDT by GOP Poet (Obama is an OLYMPIC failure.)
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To: mountn man

Very good recap....and I agree with your comments as a fellow gentile believer.


49 posted on 04/22/2010 9:44:34 PM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: Ripliancum

The Bible is the inspired word of God, the authors didn’t have to know all of Gods meanings. They just had to communicate his words.It is the Holy Spirit that reveals Gods meanings to us.


50 posted on 04/22/2010 9:47:11 PM PDT by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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