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To: delacoert

They teach/have taught: Jesus is not Emmanuel, Adam is God, and Salvation is by Works
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what is this nonsense? I’ve never heard anyone, mormon or not, ever claim that adam is god. I


7 posted on 05/10/2010 8:09:53 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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I’ve never heard anyone, mormon or not, ever claim that adam is god

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It was a teaching of Brigham Young, one that has been downplayed, ignored, and lied to outsiders about by the LDS in the last 20 years or so.

Before that, however, it was a common and open belief that Adam was God the Father in the flesh. It is called the Adam-God doctrine. When I was LDS, I had an LDS tract that defended the doctrine (published in 1988).

Here is a link to more information:

http://utlm.org/topicalindexa.htm#Adam-God%20Doctrine


27 posted on 05/10/2010 9:49:36 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-mormon, now Christan - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: mamelukesabre

what is this nonsense? I’ve never heard anyone, mormon or not, ever claim that adam is god.

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Adam is “god”

in 1873, the Deseret News noted Young saying “How much unbelief exists in the minds of the Latter-day Saints in regard to one particular doctrine which I revealed to them, and which God revealed to me—namely that Adam is our Father and God...).

He had been teaching Adam worship since the early 1850s: “Now, if it should happen that we have to pay TRIBUTE to Father Adam, what a humiliating circumstance it would be! Just wait till you pass Joseph Smith, and after Joseph lets you pass him, you will find Peter...” (Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, vol. 5, p. 331, 1857)

Our Father Adam is the man who stands at the gate and holds the keys of everlasting life and salvation to all his children who have or who ever will come upon the earth. I have been found fault with by the ministers of religion because I have said that they were ignoratn. But I could not find any man on the earth who could tell me this, although it is one of the simplest things in the world, until I met and talked with Joseph Smith. (Brigham Young, Deseret News, June 8, 1873)

Now that was Brigham Young later in life...26 years AFTER he arrived in Utah. From the get-go of the mass-volumed “Journal of Discourses” — from vol. 1 in the early 1850s — Brigham Young was teaching that Adam “is our Father and our God, and the ONLY God with whom we have to do. Every man upon the earth, professing Christians or non-professing, must hear it, and will know it sooner or later.” (vol. 1, JoD, p. 50)


40 posted on 05/11/2010 7:08:34 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: mamelukesabre
what is this nonsense? I’ve never heard anyone, mormon or not, ever claim that adam is god.

Then you probably never heard that God came down to earth as a human and had sexual intercourse with Mary either.

174 posted on 05/11/2010 12:55:29 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (No Romney,No Mark Kirk (Illinois), not now, not ever!)
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