[kosta50]

The point is that there have been heresies since the beginning. And I would wager that those who were caught up in those heresies were utterly convinced that they were practicing the orthodox Faith and that the Church had gone off the rails

Historical facts show that one Church prevailed. There are many people who make Rollex watches, but there is only one genuine Rollex if you know what I mean. You will always have splinter groups vying for legitimacy. That doesn't mean that every pair of zealots or three stooges can claim to be the Church. That's not how things work.

[markomalley]

Historical facts show that one Church prevailed. There are many people who make Rollex watches, but there is only one genuine Rollex if you know what I mean. You will always have splinter groups vying for legitimacy. That doesn't mean that every pair of zealots or three stooges can claim to be the Church. That's not how things work.

And it sounds like you and I are in agreement here!