Posted on 05/26/2010 12:45:13 PM PDT by TwoLegsGood
Bzzzzzzt! Wrong, but thanks for playing our game.
I visited IHOP with a friend of mine who was just dying to go there. I enjoyed the worship center with the music, but when I went into the bookstore, it was filled with Mike Bickle stuff. I got creeped out.
Obviously, the Holy Spirit was giving me some discernment there.
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Great article. Being a prophet pays a lot better these days than it did in the past (eating locusts? beheading? getting swallowed by a whale?)...
Just curious...was the IHOP’s tagline “Come Hungry. Leave Holy.”?
When a prophet speaks in the name of the LORD, if the thing does not come about or come true, that is the thing which the LORD has not spoken. The prophet has spoken it presumptuously; you shall not be afraid of him (Deuteronomy 18:22).
And Jonah began to enter into the city a day’s journey, and he cried, and said, Yet forty days, and Nineveh shall be overthrown (Jonah 3:4).
So Jonah was a false prophet. Yet in the Bible...
“So Jonah was a false prophet. Yet in the Bible...”
No, Jonah spoke just the words the Lord gave him, however the Lord did not give him the whole message. That is what a prophet does, speaks just the words the Lord gives.
“Leave at once for the important city, Nineveh. Announce to the people that I can no longer overlook the wicked things they have done.”
“Leave at once for the important city, Nineveh. Announce to the people the message I have given you.”
I don’t think I am following you.
God told him to announce the message, but the message wan’t ‘40 days hence’?
Or Jonah said what God told him, but God’s plan were actually 40 years, not 40 days?
Jonah only had the message God gave him. It did not include the fact that if Ninevah repented God would be merciful.
What Ninevah did after the display of God’s mercy to incur God’s wrath was not Jonah’s business and not part of his prophetic charge. He was to be faithful to as much light as God gave him at the time and that was to proclaim God’s judgment just as he was told. How it ultimately worked out was God’s business.
So...
Jonah ‘made a prophecy’. Jonah’s prophecy didn’t come true. According to the article above (and Deut), Jonah is a false prophet.
All I was trying to point out is that it isn’t all that cut/dried. Did I make that point? I still believe that Jonah ‘heard from God’ and was a ‘true prophet’, even though the article outlines how he couldn’t be...
“Jonah’s prophecy didn’t come true.”
It wasn’t Jonah’s prophecy. It was God’s word to Ninevah; God just didn’t let Jonah in on the repentance condition. The reason for that could be seen in Jonah’s reaction when Ninevah did repent. He was entrusted with as much of God’s plan as God thought he was capable of faithfully carrying out; and even then, Jonah almost failed.
Are you Jonah’s press secretary?
Funny... love them pancakes... hate them antiChrists.
Hmmm... I think the entire IHOP/NAR movement counts upon your interpretation of Jonah...
so I have to be a Berean about it...
God would never give a prophetic word without giving the conditions of that word at the time of the prophecy.
Otherwise, God would be a trickster.
IF my people will humble themselves...
THEN I will heal their land etc..
I don’t know enough about the Jonah word to discuss it but the condition of repentance had to be implied somewhere, somehow. Ninevah’s king immediately repents after hearing the word.
These lying prophets of the NAR always give prophecies that don’t come true — Bob Jones has predicted California falling into the ocean in the 1990’s — but when it didn’t happen, he used the ‘Oh the people repented” excuse.
This is lame and satanic, not the goodness of God.
IHOP : “Come hungry, leave damned.”
Stay creeped on this stuff, GBU
“God would never give a prophetic word without giving the conditions of that word at the time of the prophecy.”
That’s not entirely correct.
1 Pet. 1:10-12, “Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you: Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow. Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven; which things the angels desire to look into.”
1 Cor. 13:12, “For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.”
As it applies to a condition on a prophetic word being given or not being given at all?
Would like be signing a contract without knowing all the codicils?
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