[mountn man]

My point was Revelation where Christ returns on a white horse, robes dipped in blood, King of Kings and Lord of Lord, that whole thing. That is the final victory.

That is where prophecy leads us, not to some, we all live happily ever after on this Earth having kids and raising families til Jesus comes and we sing Kumbaya.

The Bible is a war manual. We are at war with Satan, in our own lives as well as this world. That war will not be over till Christ returns.

Ezekiel, Daniel Revelation and others tell us what to look for when that might be. It uses terms like "don't be afraid" for a reason. There's some scary stuff coming up, and the Bible tells us to put on our battle armor.

None of the Apostles looked for rosy lives here and now. They were ready for battle. And so should we, as we see the day approaching.

Preparing for battle isn't defeatest, its anything but. Denying the coming battle is, it'll get your a$$ kicked.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

That is where prophecy leads us, not to some, we all live happily ever after on this Earth having kids and raising families til Jesus comes and we sing Kumbaya.

Why not? That's where He's led me and millions of Christians.

The Bible is a war manual. We are at war with Satan, in our own lives as well as this world. That war will not be over till Christ returns.

The war is spiritual. Satan beguiles every Christian but we have Christ's promise that He has given us the indwelling Holy Spirit who will fight our battles for us and with us and who will never leave us defenseless.

There's some scary stuff coming up, and the Bible tells us to put on our battle armor.

There's plenty of "scary stuff" right here in front of our faces. Stuff many of us are oblivious to.

So no one is "denying the battle." The battle is the same as ever -- "evil in high places."

But with our "battle armor" in place, which is the "sword of the Spirit" -- God's holy word -- Christians should have no fear. Christ has overcome the world. It is His. Now. Yesterday. Today. Tomorrow. All of it. Now.

"Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:

Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:

In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:

Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him;

And he is before all things, and by him all things consist." -- Colossians 1:12-17

"All things."

[GiovannaNicoletta]

Now, mountn man, all you have to do is throw half the Bible in the garbage and you, too, can feel better knowing that none of those Daniel and Revelation nasty thingies are actually going to really happen.

We can all discard what God told us and live in a world of cotton candy and butterflies if we just try hard enough.

[Quix]

INDEED!

THX THX.