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Tax the Church? In Spain, it Saves the Govt Billions
LifeSiteNews ^ | June 21, 2010 | Matthew Cullinan Hoffman

Posted on 06/21/2010 9:36:15 PM PDT by Alex Murphy

MADRID, June 21, 2010 (LifeSiteNews.com) - As liberal groups continue to push governments to tax Christian churches, data recently published by the Spanish Episcopal Conference (CEE) found that the Catholic Church actually saves the Spanish government billions of dollars per year in social service expenditures.

The Catholic Church receives approximately 252.7 million euros per year ($311.8m) from voluntary taxpayer contributions, coming from only 7.2 million taxpayers who check a box indicating that they wish 0.7% of their tax to go to the Catholic Church, rather than to a government fund. The rest of its income is through private donations.

However, the Catholic bishops contend that taxpayers realize a massive return for their investment, resulting in billions of euros in savings from social programs and other services that would have cost much more if they had been left to the private sector.

Fernando Gimenez Barriocanal, vice secretary of Economic Affairs for the CEE, says that "the Church is at the disposition of society, and gives much much more than what it receives...each euro invested in the Church returns to the society multiplied 2.73 times."

The "immense labor of assistance" by the Catholic Church in Spain involves 20,000 priests, more than 70,000 pastoral assistants and more than 60,000 volunteers, according to Gimenez Barriocanal.

The Church spends approximately 2.8 billion euros per year on assistance programs, including 68 women's shelters to aid victims of spousal abuse and ex-prostitutes, and 870,000 poor who are clothed and fed by Catholics. In toto, 2.8 million people receive such benefits from the Catholic Church.

In addition, the Catholic Church in Spain provides educational services to almost 1.4 million students, saving the government more than 4.1 billion euros annually.


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Ministry/Outreach; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: freformed
The Catholic Church receives approximately 252.7 million euros per year ($311.8m) from voluntary taxpayer contributions, coming from only 7.2 million taxpayers who check a box indicating that they wish 0.7% of their tax to go to the Catholic Church, rather than to a government fund. The rest of its income is through private donations....

....The Church spends approximately 2.8 billion euros per year on assistance programs, including 68 women's shelters to aid victims of spousal abuse and ex-prostitutes, and 870,000 poor who are clothed and fed by Catholics. In toto, 2.8 million people receive such benefits from the Catholic Church.

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1 posted on 06/21/2010 9:36:17 PM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: Alex Murphy

How do Mohammad and the Cheapskates play at this venue?

I would be interested in knowing how this plays out based on contributions and specific social benefits.


2 posted on 06/21/2010 9:44:51 PM PDT by ntmxx (I am not so sure about this misdirection!)
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To: Alex Murphy

“indicating that they wish 0.7% of their tax to go to the Catholic Church, rather than to a government fund.”

If you don’t want to deal with the state don’t take anything from it.


3 posted on 06/21/2010 9:44:52 PM PDT by mainsail that
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To: Alex Murphy

Taxing churches: coming soon to a nation near you. :)


4 posted on 06/21/2010 9:52:37 PM PDT by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: Alex Murphy

What government taxes, government controls.


5 posted on 06/22/2010 12:13:15 AM PDT by Persevero (It's going to be a long summer.)
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To: Alex Murphy

I don’t aim this at any specific church.

But ANY church which involves itself in political debates and supports particular candidates on any issue should loose its tax free status and be subject to taxes.


6 posted on 06/22/2010 2:09:02 AM PDT by ZULU
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To: Persevero

Look around at these churches. A number of them have become a “business-front”. Some of these big-name ministers are paid in the six and even seven figure numbers. Some churches own real estate worth tens of millions. Some of these ministries operate private jets. There’s nothing in the Constitution forbidding taxation over churches.


7 posted on 06/22/2010 2:11:53 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Alex Murphy

Anyone who thinks obammy isn’t going to go after all churches to tax is a fool.
Like the song says, “if you walk too much they’ll tax your feet”.


8 posted on 06/22/2010 3:58:30 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (Just say NO to RINOs. (FUBO))
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To: Joe Boucher
Anyone who thinks obammy isn’t going to go after all churches to tax is a fool.

All churches? Yes. All religious institutions? I have doubts.

9 posted on 06/22/2010 4:54:11 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: Pollster1

Even this unAmerican marxist p.o.s. hasn’t the balls to tax Christian Churches and NOT the gutter religions mosques.
The supremes aren’t that stupid.


10 posted on 06/22/2010 5:04:31 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (Just say NO to RINOs. (FUBO))
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To: Joe Boucher
Even this unAmerican marxist p.o.s. hasn’t the balls to tax Christian Churches and NOT the gutter religions mosques. The supremes aren’t that stupid.

The supremes aren’t that stupid. Yet. But how many nominations do you think the evil thug in our White House will get before we're rid of him? How would a wise Latina decide if she had Kagan and other Obama groupies to follow her lead?

11 posted on 06/22/2010 5:09:33 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: ZULU
But ANY church which involves itself in political debates and supports particular candidates on any issue should loose its tax free status and be subject to taxes.

What about the myriad of tax exempt political organizations?

12 posted on 06/22/2010 5:19:44 AM PDT by DaveArk
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To: DaveArk

?????????????????????????

Political organizations are NOT tax exempt.


13 posted on 06/22/2010 5:40:44 AM PDT by ZULU
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To: ntmxx

I’m sorry, I didn’t get your question. The fact is that Moos do give a lot of their income to “charities” — zakat.


14 posted on 06/22/2010 6:15:28 AM PDT by Cronos (Origen(200AD)"The Church received from theApostles the tradition of giving Baptism even to infants")
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To: Alex Murphy

There is no separation of church and state in Europe, as we know it here. Many countries collect tithing directly for the church from your paycheck. Can’t afford the tithing? Then you have to officially declare you are no longer a member of the church.


15 posted on 06/22/2010 6:24:21 AM PDT by Katya (Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)
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To: Cronos

Although a nice story is not what I asked! For those who do not know read on;

Yes, I know of such; Qur'an (2:177)

Zakat (a fixed percentage) in spirit is in line with salat (prayer). 

Sadaqa (public display) normally used immediately following any transgression.

 

In fact, financially supporting jihadis is a recognized form of jihad — jihad al-mal; even the vast majority of militant verses in the Koran (e.g., 9:20, 9:41, 49:15, 61:10-11) prioritize the need to fund the jihad over merely fighting in it, as fighting with one's wealth often precedes fighting with one's self. Well-known Islamists — from international jihadi Osama bin Laden to authoritative cleric Sheikh Qaradawiare well aware of this and regularly exhort Muslims to fund the jihad via zakat. (meforum.org)

More revealing of the peculiarly Islamic nature of zakat is the fact that Muslims are actually forbidden from bestowing this "charity" onto non-Muslims (e.g., the vast majority of American infidels). "Charitable" Muslim organizations operating on American soil are therefore not the equivalent of, the Salvation Army, an organization whose "ministry extends to all, regardless of ages, sex, color, or creed." In Islam, creed is a major criterion for receiving "charity" — not to mention for receiving social equality. (meforum.org)

Most if not all Islamic charities" have, indeed, been funding the jihad!

16 posted on 06/22/2010 2:11:32 PM PDT by ntmxx (I am not so sure about this misdirection!)
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To: Pollster1

Funny,
How the first lady supreme said it was wrong for folks to criticize the judiciary.

Me thinks many should be held for sedetion.
And hung.


17 posted on 06/22/2010 3:23:41 PM PDT by Joe Boucher (Just say NO to RINOs. (FUBO))
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