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To: caww
Odd you would say Bennett is not speaking to catholics

That's exactly the point, when he's talking about what Catholics believe he's saying things that would make a Catholic say "what's he talking about" but would make a Protestant say "I knew they believed that".

More to the point: WHY is he doing it? By that I mean why is he apparently deliberately confirming Protestants in inaccurate representations of Catholic belief? Who could possibly benefit from that?

By way of example: If I said "When I was a Protestant I was taught that the Bible dropped gold-leafed, in KJV form, from the sky and if you read every 3rd letter you can use it as a TV Guide" you'd rightly say I was 1) nuts and 2) making things up to appeal to a particular sort of person who already wants to believe that Protestants are crazy. But it would be manifestly obvious to everyone that I was not attempting to influence members of my previous communion.

Something very much like that is happening in this testimony. There are after all many Protestants who believe that the KJV in its translation was Divinely inspired and could be said to be given from God, I don't think there are any who believe it actually dropped from Heaven prebound and shrinkwrapped. Nobody would try to use Sacred Scripture to find out what's on NBC Thursdays this fall. Obfuscation through simplification, followed with a strawman, completed with a confirmation that the other side is brain dead.

To recap, Catholics do not believe it is possible to "earn" Salvation. It is a free gift from God. Holiness on the other hand...

456 posted on 07/18/2010 11:31:06 PM PDT by Legatus
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To: Legatus

No, I don,t think you have this right at all...your post is not making any sense whatsoever to me.

His mission is to Catholics...those still bound to Rome and the Pope...so that they might find the Freddom from Rome and from the rules and regulations which the catholic memberships are required to believe because Rome says you have to believe it.


457 posted on 07/18/2010 11:38:01 PM PDT by caww
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To: Legatus; caww
To recap, Catholics do not believe it is possible to "earn" Salvation. It is a free gift from God.

I think it is wonderful you believe that, because it is the Biblical truth of the Gospel. On the other hand, there are many Catholics on this forum who repeatedly quote James 2 to insist that we are saved by faith AND works. Can you understand why some non-Catholics here might get confused about what is actually believed in your religion?

565 posted on 07/19/2010 9:42:28 AM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: Legatus
To recap, Catholics do not believe it is possible to "earn" Salvation. It is a free gift from God.

And you guys don't pray to Mary or the Saints...Yada, Yada, Yada...

Your own proof texts for working your way to heaven are in Matthew...Visit people in prison, feed and clothe people...And if you don't you're counted as one of the goats...

People don't make up accusations against your religion...We learn it from you guys...You tell us these things...You print these things in books and on the computer...

You guys tell us that you can't get to heaven on Faith, alone...What else does it take...YOu have to do something???

576 posted on 07/19/2010 10:58:32 AM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: Legatus; caww; boatbums

http://www.outsidethecamp.org/trent.htm

Canon IX. If any one saith, that by faith alone the impious is justified; in such wise as to mean, that nothing else is required to co-operate in order to the obtaining of the grace of Justification, and that it is not in any way necessary, that he be prepared and disposed by the movement of his own will; let him be anathema.


593 posted on 07/19/2010 2:56:30 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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