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The Confession of Cyril Lucaris
The Voice ^ | 1692 | Cyril Lucaris

Posted on 07/22/2010 11:01:11 AM PDT by the_conscience

Edited on 07/23/2010 8:45:24 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: Cronos

Nope, they didn’t break from those that broke from reformationist groups.

The unitarians aren’t a Christian group, by self-declaration, so they can’t really be considered anything in Christianity. The anabaptists would fall under the “many baptists” concession I already allowed for.

The restorationists just basically hung out their own shingle. The pentcostalists and charismatics came from American Methodists who didn’t break away from anyone, but were a by-product of the Revolutionary War. (If you accept Anglicans as Protestant in the first place, which I don’t.) Their break-away was political whether one is speaking of Henry or Elizabeth, imho.


351 posted on 07/25/2010 12:06:15 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it. Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: streetpreacher; circlecity; vladimir998
Reformed folks have a resurgence in Reformed theology that is changing the landscape of Protestant Christianity ... We are the future of American Christianity.

Actually, you aren't -- the fastest growing are the pent-e-costals, the charismatics and the like. Calvinist thought on the other hands is dying out among Protestants.
352 posted on 07/25/2010 12:06:32 AM PDT by Cronos (Show me just what Muhammad brought that was new and there you will find things only evil and inhuman)
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To: Cronos
"Actually, you aren't -- the fastest growing are the pent-e-costals, the charismatics and the like. Calvinist thought on the other hands is dying out among "

Actually we are. While Pentacostals are the fastest growing denomination in all of Christiandom (protestant and Catholic), Reformed theology is growing very rapidly among Baptists as well as among constervative presbyterians and other non-denominatoinal churches. It has had a majaor rebirth and is taking off. It is the protestant branches which are Pelagian like the Catholics which are dying out.

353 posted on 07/25/2010 4:01:50 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: circlecity

Sigh... The Church is not Pelagian — we battled it, remember? By deviating to the other extreme in antithesis, the Calvinist lead to their own heresy, just as Nestorius deviated too much to the other extreme in his battle against Arius.


354 posted on 07/25/2010 6:44:49 AM PDT by Cronos (Omnia mutantur, nihil interit)
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To: Cronos

http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1884779_1884782_1884760,00.html

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,801853,00.html

Nice quote at the beginning of the second article: “Calvinism was once virtually the American Faith. It came to New England with the Puritans, to New York with the Dutch Reformed, to Pennsylvania with the German Reformed. And wherever Scottish Presbyterians went in the U.S., predestination, 90-minute sermons, and the “Shorter Catechism” went with them.”

If America had been founded by Catholics, America never would have been founded.

Catholicism has never resulted in the liberty of nations or democratic ideals.


355 posted on 07/25/2010 8:52:00 AM PDT by streetpreacher (Arminian by birth, Calvinist by the grace of God)
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To: wagglebee; Zionist Conspirator
Again, what "caucus"? A single person CANNOT, by definition, be a caucus.

Perhaps I'm mistaken, but I've seen numerous "Noachide Caucus" threads with only the OP participating.

356 posted on 07/25/2010 9:45:57 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: xzins
(If you accept Anglicans as Protestant in the first place, which I don’t.)

Not to worry, they don't even consider themselves Protestant. Try calling one Protestant sometime, and see what happens.

357 posted on 07/25/2010 9:49:37 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Cronos

Hey, if it makes you feel good to believe that, then knock yerself out...


358 posted on 07/25/2010 10:45:39 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (The success of Darwinism was accompanied by a decline in scientific integrity. - Dr. Wm R. Thompson)
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To: RegulatorCountry
Again, what "caucus"? A single person CANNOT, by definition, be a caucus.

Perhaps I'm mistaken, but I've seen numerous "Noachide Caucus" threads with only the OP participating.

I don't know why I got dragged into this, but those are "Jewish/Noachide caucus" threads and consist for the most part of simply listing the liturgical Bible readings for the coming week. I'm sorry if this offends you.

I have a list of people who receive pings to these threads. If you're not on the list you won't get pinged. It is caucused because it is a worship-themed thread, just like Catholic daily mass reading threads. This also keeps Notzerim from invading the thread and taking it over with all their J*sus-talk.

359 posted on 07/25/2010 10:56:35 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (. . . Lo' `al-halechem levaddo yichyeh ha'adam, ki `al-kol-motza' fi HaShem yichyeh ha'adam.)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Actually, it’s just the facts that the Baptist movement arose out of Anabaptists in the 1600s, and the Anabaptists arose out of the Anglicans.


360 posted on 07/25/2010 1:35:05 PM PDT by Cronos (Omnia mutantur, nihil interit)
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To: streetpreacher

Actually, if America had been founded by Catholics, America would have been founded earlier as the Brits were not too keen on Catholicism in the 1700s, remember?


361 posted on 07/25/2010 1:37:12 PM PDT by Cronos (Omnia mutantur, nihil interit)
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To: Mad Dawg

Always partial to Gibbs myself. One thing is certain, you can never know enough mathematics.

362 posted on 07/25/2010 4:52:30 PM PDT by delacoert
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To: delacoert

Saint John’s College was all about original sources, and Lobachevsky is who they gave us. I agree in principle that one can not have enough mathematics. However, time, work, other interests, and natural incapacity are determining factors. I would have liked doing more calculus, but I like theology more.


363 posted on 07/25/2010 5:35:01 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (O Maria, sine labe concepta, ora pro nobis qui ad te confugimus.)
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To: Mad Dawg

Villanova 1980.

Which St. John’s? There’s a bunch.


364 posted on 07/25/2010 5:58:45 PM PDT by delacoert
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To: delacoert

Annapolis

St. John’s College
The Great Books School
You write ‘em - we read ‘em.


365 posted on 07/25/2010 6:05:03 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (O Maria, sine labe concepta, ora pro nobis qui ad te confugimus.)
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To: Mad Dawg

Interesting history, St. John’s College.


366 posted on 07/25/2010 6:13:15 PM PDT by delacoert
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To: Cronos

I’ve read some works in the past that suggest the Anabaptist link is weak but I certainly agree with you that it is preposterous to claim an unbroken chain from the apostles to Baptists.


367 posted on 07/25/2010 9:25:33 PM PDT by streetpreacher (Arminian by birth, Calvinist by the grace of God)
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To: Cronos

Since faith and regeneration are the gifts of God, we don’t need to prove unbroken apostolic succession. It’s not necessary. The faith of the apostles is what matters, not traditions. Only God can give that.


368 posted on 07/25/2010 9:27:39 PM PDT by streetpreacher (Arminian by birth, Calvinist by the grace of God)
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To: streetpreacher
Faith and regeneration ARE gifts from God, and Apostolic Succession only helps in ensuring that we maintain the Faith and not slip into heresies like Arianism, Montanism, etc. By sticking true to the Faith handed down to us we steer clear of Seventh Day Adventism, Christian Science, Mormonism, Jehovah's Witnesses and the like.

The Faith of the apostles is what matters and tradition ensures that we mortal men and women know when we get off that path.
369 posted on 07/26/2010 12:09:52 AM PDT by Cronos (Omnia mutantur, nihil interit)
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