The Confession of Cyril Lucaris

The Voice ^ | 1692 | Cyril Lucaris

[Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus]

So, as you see, the Baptists split from Puritans who split from Anglicans who split from The Church.

If this is what you choose to believe, that is your business, if it makes you happy. Of course, the Catholics split off from "the Church" between the 5th-7th centuries as a schism involved in syncretising the original baptistic apostolic beliefs with the various forms of paganism still existing in the late Roman Empire.

[streetpreacher]

Why do you think that Catholics have been able to succeed in having regular caucus threads?

You're kidding right?

[streetpreacher]

I don't mind Catholics or Protestants having their own caucus threads but what's next? Muslim caucus threads?

It's bad enough a heretical sect like the Mormons are allowed to have caucus threads on FR.

[streetpreacher]

That does not explain that when Baptists or other Protestants discover Reformed theology, they become more conservative and more devout. According to your logic, we should all be atheists by now.

[streetpreacher]

I mean really, who cares? Reformed folks have a resurgence in Reformed theology that is changing the landscape of Protestant Christianity and is growing the true church to the glory of God. We are the future of American Christianity.

Roman Catholics own the religious forums on a website.

I’d say that of the two: we are in a significantly better position.

[vladimir998]

You wrote:

“That does not explain that when Baptists or other Protestants discover Reformed theology, they become more conservative and more devout.”

So say you. I have also seen the exact opposite. I have seen Calvinists become more devout and conservative as Baptists.

“According to your logic, we should all be atheists by now.”

No, actually that is not so.

[circlecity]

You’re correct, of course. Soli Deo Gloria!

[Cronos]

Those were the reformed and the lutheran and the presbyterians.

Not really. You mean the Lutherans, the Calvinists and those following Zwingli, but there were also others, the Unitarians and others just popped up like Anabaptists, etc. Even the Marburg Colloquy (1529) didn't resolve any of these differences.

You're

And you are right about the pent-e-costals, Mormons, BAptists, etc. but I would argue that they are second or third generation PRotestants in that they did not originally break from the Catholic Church but broke from those that broke from the CAtholic Church, hence they fall under the umbrella of child or grand-child divisions of the Protestant groups

[Cronos]

Lutherans are far closer to the Apostolic Church. One can’t club you with Presbyterians or Pent-e-costals or others.

[Cronos]

No, history and facts show that the Baptists split from Puritans who split from Anglicans who split from The Church

[xzins]

Nope, they didn’t break from those that broke from reformationist groups.

The unitarians aren’t a Christian group, by self-declaration, so they can’t really be considered anything in Christianity. The anabaptists would fall under the “many baptists” concession I already allowed for.

The restorationists just basically hung out their own shingle. The pentcostalists and charismatics came from American Methodists who didn’t break away from anyone, but were a by-product of the Revolutionary War. (If you accept Anglicans as Protestant in the first place, which I don’t.) Their break-away was political whether one is speaking of Henry or Elizabeth, imho.

[Cronos]

Reformed folks have a resurgence in Reformed theology that is changing the landscape of Protestant Christianity ... We are the future of American Christianity.

Actually, you aren't -- the fastest growing are the pent-e-costals, the charismatics and the like. Calvinist thought on the other hands is dying out among Protestants.

[circlecity]

"Actually, you aren't -- the fastest growing are the pent-e-costals, the charismatics and the like. Calvinist thought on the other hands is dying out among "

Actually we are. While Pentacostals are the fastest growing denomination in all of Christiandom (protestant and Catholic), Reformed theology is growing very rapidly among Baptists as well as among constervative presbyterians and other non-denominatoinal churches. It has had a majaor rebirth and is taking off. It is the protestant branches which are Pelagian like the Catholics which are dying out.

[Cronos]

Sigh... The Church is not Pelagian — we battled it, remember? By deviating to the other extreme in antithesis, the Calvinist lead to their own heresy, just as Nestorius deviated too much to the other extreme in his battle against Arius.

[streetpreacher]

http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1884779_1884782_1884760,00.html

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,801853,00.html

Nice quote at the beginning of the second article: “Calvinism was once virtually the American Faith. It came to New England with the Puritans, to New York with the Dutch Reformed, to Pennsylvania with the German Reformed. And wherever Scottish Presbyterians went in the U.S., predestination, 90-minute sermons, and the “Shorter Catechism” went with them.”

If America had been founded by Catholics, America never would have been founded.

Catholicism has never resulted in the liberty of nations or democratic ideals.

[RegulatorCountry]

Again, what "caucus"? A single person CANNOT, by definition, be a caucus.

Perhaps I'm mistaken, but I've seen numerous "Noachide Caucus" threads with only the OP participating.

[RegulatorCountry]

(If you accept Anglicans as Protestant in the first place, which I don’t.)

Not to worry, they don't even consider themselves Protestant. Try calling one Protestant sometime, and see what happens.

[Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus]

Hey, if it makes you feel good to believe that, then knock yerself out...

[Zionist Conspirator]

Again, what "caucus"? A single person CANNOT, by definition, be a caucus.

Perhaps I'm mistaken, but I've seen numerous "Noachide Caucus" threads with only the OP participating.

I don't know why I got dragged into this, but those are "Jewish/Noachide caucus" threads and consist for the most part of simply listing the liturgical Bible readings for the coming week. I'm sorry if this offends you.

I have a list of people who receive pings to these threads. If you're not on the list you won't get pinged. It is caucused because it is a worship-themed thread, just like Catholic daily mass reading threads. This also keeps Notzerim from invading the thread and taking it over with all their J*sus-talk.

[Cronos]

Actually, it’s just the facts that the Baptist movement arose out of Anabaptists in the 1600s, and the Anabaptists arose out of the Anglicans.