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To: Natural Law; daniel1212
False teachings is a good place to start...

....these issues common to the practices of the majority of catholics have always been a source of contention...the battle will equally continue to rage as it has for centuries.... The “reformation” continues though at somewhat a more respectable level than prior centuries..but the issues will not rest as we see the heavenly battle for truth play out in the circles of debate here on earth.

Both sides believe the other is misleading the masses....but in the end each individual will determine the side of truth they choose to stand with and fight for. That is the reality of the situation.

Christ sets us free....and for that freedom to believe as one determines the truth to be. Some will choose to abide by that of regulations, rules, rituals and massive amounts of traditions He never imposed on us. Others prefer to walk by faith...”The just shall live by faith”....and following Christ as He taught us to do. Restricting that freedom, or dictating what that shall be thru traditions and rituals will always distract from the centrality of Christ IMO and thru the investigations I have done on both sides of the issue.

Again...each will determine the side of truth they will stand with. Learning much about the catholic faith from the Fr threads and the references given over these months...as well as personal investigation....My conclusions have lead me to that of standing with the truth of Christ alone and His written word as the authority and the standard over any other traditions or perceived ideas of a hearsay dictating what some believe to be otherwise in their teachings within the catholic faith.

11 posted on 08/01/2010 10:20:19 AM PDT by caww
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To: caww
Some will choose to abide by that of regulations, rules, rituals and massive amounts of traditions He never imposed on us.
I had no idea how pharisitical the lives you must believe we Catholics live must be! Pray tell, is the rule against say divorce on that you think Our Lord did not "impose" on us?
12 posted on 08/01/2010 10:23:50 AM PDT by narses ( 'Prefer nothing to the love of Christ.')
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To: caww
Christ sets us free....and for that freedom to believe as one determines the truth to be

Let me make sure I understand you. Christ set us free, and that freedom consists in everyone having the "freedom to believe as one determins the truth to be"?

Oh, brother ...

14 posted on 08/01/2010 10:58:54 AM PDT by Campion
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To: caww
Some will choose to abide by that of regulations, rules, rituals and massive amounts of traditions He never imposed on us.

You mean like Baptists who think that drinking alcoholic beverages is always and everywhere sinful, although the Bible nowhere says any such thing? That kind of "rule" that "He never imposed on us"?

15 posted on 08/01/2010 11:01:56 AM PDT by Campion
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To: caww
"Christ sets us free....and for that freedom to believe as one determines the truth to be. Some will choose to abide by that of regulations, rules, rituals and massive amounts of traditions He never imposed on us. Others prefer to walk by faith...”The just shall live by faith”....and following Christ as He taught us to do. Restricting that freedom, or dictating what that shall be thru traditions and rituals will always distract from the centrality of Christ IMO and thru the investigations I have done on both sides of the issue."

This one post speaks volumes to the hubris that is Protestantism and is a good example of the Protestant practice of telling Catholics incorrectly what we believe and then telling us why it is wrong. There is no attempt to actually learn and understand Catholic dogma before spouting.

The Catechism is very clear on the concept of freedom, addressing it some 89 times. You would do well to actually read it before opining. What ever you consider "researching" is obviously flawed, incomplete, and one sided.

19 posted on 08/01/2010 11:43:44 AM PDT by Natural Law (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: caww

There are often misrepresentations of RCM presented by Prots, and there are some arguments against Rome which should not or need not be used (call no man father, statutes, etc.) as well as things like exaggerations regarding the Inquisitions (bad enough as it was, and Prots has their share).

And there are many misrepresentations of Protestant beliefs (such as “solo” versus “sola” Scriptura) by Catholics, and many arguments for her which are specious, such as were recently covered in extensive threads, including her very basis for authenticity.


20 posted on 08/01/2010 11:44:00 AM PDT by daniel1212 ("Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out," Acts 3:19)
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