Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
Fascinating. Calvinists would have us believe that they personally were chosen for salvation before the end of the world, yet the Calvinist Mary was picked at random out of the Nazarene phone book, or was the 20 millionth account in the Jewish Facebook venture of 2000 years ago.
You people are funny. I shall post the word of God to combat Calvinist claptrap.
Luke 1: 26 10 In the sixth month, the angel Gabriel was sent from God to a town of Galilee called Nazareth, 27 to a virgin betrothed to a man named Joseph, of the house of David, and the virgin's name was Mary.
How did Gabriel know to come to Mary? Or was he just kinda wandering around and saw her sunbathing in the back yard?
Not bad, not bad!!!
I like the Westminster Confession of Faith as such a perfect documentation of the straying from the Faith of Christ.
lol. Says you. RCs are so fond of patting themselves on the back for their own baseless victories. Just because I don't agree with your incorrect interpretation of a verse is not evidence I don't know that verse.
Again, your repeating a question does not mean I haven't answered it. It means I haven't answered it enough to please you.
Sorry. If I tried to please you, I'd throw away the Scriptures, as Rome has done, and I would follow the doctrines of men who make up the magisterium.
"Not gonna happen. Uh-uh. Nooo way." -- Dana Carvey as Papa Bush.
You appear comfortable in your medieval longing of the monastic life. Thank God, Christ did not teach the benefits of that lonely, empty life. He taught pity and understanding for that life. However, He did teach joy in marriage when a man takes a wife, just as Christ has taken His church as His bride.
Snippets only. For example, I have on other threads, and Kosta has on this thread, pointed out the recurring emphasis by Paul on deeds and the Judgement of those deeds. Calvinists either declare that it does not apply to them because they are the self-appointed elect, selected from before time began, or that since Christ took their lumps, it does not apply to them.
Christ did not choose Mary.
This isn’t the first time Roman Catholics do not understand the Trinity, nor the word of God.
Sadly, it won’t be the last.
Luke says Gabriel was sent from God. Would that be God, the Father, or God, the Son or God, the Holy Ghost? How do you know?
Nonsense. I'm sorry if you don't understand what it means to be justified by Jesus Christ, Mark. Study. It may come to you.
Scripture indicates that God the Father predestined our salvation through Jesus Christ the Son, and we have that salvation guaranteed to us through the presence of the Holy Spirit.
Ephesians 1:3-6
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places, even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him. He destined us in love to be his sons through Jesus Christ, according to the purpose of his will, to the praise of his glorious grace which he freely bestowed on us in the Beloved.
We know the plan of salvation was designed before the foundations of the world were laid.
The Father predestinated the plan and the Son and Spirit agreed to the plan .
I believe that even the Roman church says she was chosen by the Father
Certainly that's what the angel told her.
The goofiness from Rome continues.
Picky picky ...using THAT book again
I feel so grieved for them E, the foundation of Rome is sand.
Why then did Jesus spend 40 days and 40 nights in the desert? Why did John the Baptist wander in the wilderness and why did Moses spend 40 days and nights atop Mt. Sinai in fasting and prayer?
Do you believe every person capable of accomplishing in an equal span of time the things these men accomplished in 40 days? Perhaps there is a place for contemplative prayer and solitude in Christianity.
Christ did not choose Mary.
This isn’t the first time Roman Catholics do not understand the Trinity, nor the word of God.
Sadly, it won’t be the last.
Someone needs to ping everyone to this post and pass out the popcorn because I have a feeling this is going to be epic.
Wake your friends and call your kids folks.
They are one in the same. They are three distinct hypostases, but one perfect being.
Say, did anyone ever show you a shamrock?
Prove your words. I give you Luke, and now how will you reply? Nehemiah? Something from Lamentations?
This isn’t the first time Roman Catholics do not understand the Trinity, nor the word of God.
And you guys, some of whom claim that the Gospels are actually Old Testament, get it correct? No. The body of men, under the guidance of the Holy Spirit, which correctly declared the Trinity is the Catholic Church. Not the occupants of a phone booth sized and shrinking religion of men. If you guys would actually pay attention to the Gospels, you would find that you can have Christ in your rather odd version of Christianity.
The passage says "God". Since there is no context for any differentiation at this point, it is the Triune God, which consists of God the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit which is indicated.
Your explanation of the Trinity would lead one to believe you are a polytheist. God is a single entity (monotheism) with three distinct hypostases.
Nonsense.
How many times on FR have Calvinists declared to me that they are exempt from Judgement?
I'm sorry if you don't understand what it means to be justified by Jesus Christ, Mark.
And I appreciate your sorrow; it however, is unnecessary.
Study.
I do not take or eschew action at the bidding of the likes of you.
It may come to you.
The Judgement of our deeds comes to all men.
Wow. You believe Christ was in the wilderness for 40 days because he enjoyed the monastic life? lol.
Anything to defend the indefensible priestcraft.
Jesus spent 40 days of fasting and prayer to God in the wilderness to consecrate His ministry.
He did not remain in the wilderness. He returned to be among society and those He would serve.
The gospels are technically OT scriptures. They reveal the fulfillment of the OT prophecies and they tell of the Divinity of Christ, and His complete obedience to the law of Moses, doing for us what we can not do for ourselves.
However they still teach the OT law.
The New Testament actually begins at the cross and resurrection of Christ.
The gospels were written in the same time span , in the case of John, perhaps later than the epistles..
All of them were written under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit..
The words of Jesus were not recorded at the moment spoken, the Holy Spirit brought them to mind, The SAME Holy Spirit that inspired the words of letters written by Paul, Peter, James, John and Jude .
ALL scripture is inspired
Paul was selected by Christ as an apostle, he was taught by Christ and His words contain the teachings of THE NEW COVENANT
So although Christ alludes to salvation by Faith, the primary purpose of the gospels was a revelation of the divinity of Christ and that He was the innocent dying for the guilty
Actually everything needed for salvation can be found in the OT when illuminated by the Holy Spirit of God.But the doctrine of the new church is taught under the inspiration of the Spirit in the Epistles..
Yet, in spite of the consistency of the teaching of Grace and Mercy and salvation by Faith all through out the Scriptures, there are still men that prefer to ignore that and believe that they save themselves by keeping the laws and good works.. Pray for illumination
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