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To: OLD REGGIE
The same Unitarians who, since the days of Constantine

Where were the Unitarians during the Roman Empire?

Some wish to claim membership in The Church of Those Who Never Did Anything Wrong.

I can understand the desire, but it doesn't exist. Those who cling to the idea are always of recently invented churches - claiming credit for tests they never too,.

13,037 posted on 10/19/2010 10:56:56 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr
Where were the Unitarians during the Roman Empire?

Oh you know, the Arians, Nestorians, Marcionites, Paulicans and various other gnostic heretics.

The YOPIOS crowd seems to operate under the assumption that every sect that was ever declared heretical by the Catholic Church was really just a group of oppressed Protestants who just wanted to be left alone so they could practice YOPIOS. They seem incapable of understanding that these groups were actually misguided heretics and their heresy was almost always based in their denial of the Divinity of Jesus Christ or the Holy Trinity.

13,039 posted on 10/19/2010 11:16:29 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: D-fendr; Cronos; Dr. Eckleburg; RnMomof7; metmom; Quix
The same Unitarians who, since the days of Constantine

Where were the Unitarians during the Roman Empire?

Some wish to claim membership in The Church of Those Who Never Did Anything Wrong.

I can understand the desire, but it doesn't exist. Those who cling to the idea are always of recently invented churches - claiming credit for tests they never too,.

**Revised post for those too stupid to understand satire.**

An Empire built on lies - are you talking about the Unitarians who deny the Trinity and the divinity of Christ?

Yes. The same UnitariansCatholics who, through forgery and deceit, built armies, seized territories, seized wealth and treasure, named Emperors, and deposed Emperors. Those UnitariansCatholics.

The same UnitariansCatholics who imaginanitively claim 1.2 billion members who practice the same faith. Those UnitariansCatholics.

The same UnitariansCatholics who, since the days of Constantine, have continued to build upon lies and deceit.

For example:

This is perhaps the most famous forgery in history. For centuries, until Lorenzo Valla proved it was forgery during the Renaissance it provied the basis for papal territorial and jurisdictional claims in Italy. Probably at least a first draft of it was made shortly after the middle of the eighth century in order to assist Pope Stephen II in his negotiations with the Frankish Mayor of the Palace, Pepin the Short. The Pope crossed the Alps to anoint the latter as king in 754, thereby enabling, the Carolingian family, to which Pepin belonged, to supplant the old Merovingian royal line which had become decadent and powerless and to become in law as well as in fact rulers of the Franks. In return, Pepin seems to have promised to give to the Pope those lands in Italy which the Lombards had taken from Byzantium. The promise was fulfilled in 756. Constantine's alleged gift made it possible to interpret Pepin's grant not as a benefaction but as a restoration.

The Donation of Constantine

13,090 posted on 10/19/2010 1:22:08 PM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am a Biblical Unitarian?)
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