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Intended Catholic Dictatorship
Independent Individualist ^ | 8/27/10 | Reginald Firehammer

Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief

Intended Catholic Dictatorship

The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.

The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).

The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.

The Intentions Made Plain

The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:

"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization

"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.

"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.

"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.

"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.

Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.

This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!

In Their Own Words

The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.

[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]

Two Comments

First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.

This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.

Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.

—Reginald Firehammer (06/28/10)


TOPICS: Activism; Catholic; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
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To: Quix

Certain groups definitely CAUCUS more than others and are anti-debate/discussion.


12,981 posted on 10/19/2010 8:11:58 AM PDT by TSgt (Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho - 44th and current President of the United States)
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To: metmom; 1000 silverlings; RnMomof7; Quix; smvoice; bkaycee; wmfights; count-your-change; Cronos; ...
We go to church because we want to, to worship in fellowship with other believers

But the Bible tells you to stay home, find a dark corner and pray there in private. Oh wait, it was Jesus who said that, not Paul, so it doesn't count.

12,982 posted on 10/19/2010 8:13:02 AM PDT by kosta50 (God is tired of repenting -- Jeremiah 15:6, KJV)
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To: Legatus
Well that was an education and a half. Dunno though, looks like the poor man's scientology in the making to me

No, she is as Protestant as it gets. Knows her Greek, Syriac and Aramaic quite well too.

12,983 posted on 10/19/2010 8:15:23 AM PDT by kosta50 (God is tired of repenting -- Jeremiah 15:6, KJV)
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To: wagglebee; conservonator
Not quite true. People can keep posting forever,
but the posts will stop showing up at number 65,535....

kinda like "the dead / unionist" voting for 'Rats..eh? ...
...the neverending story.


12,984 posted on 10/19/2010 8:16:19 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Imam Zer0: DeathCARE, Is my plan...So just die (quicky), please & save $$$$ :^)
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To: kosta50; D-fendr
That's why the Church in her blessed wisdom calls it a faith, trust, hope, and not 'knowledge'.

That's where you've got it all wrong.

You see, the Apostles wrote the New Testament and decided what should go in and in what order. They then translated this into 17th century English and hid it away for 16 centuries. The great scholar King James I read over this and was delighted. He proclaimed it free from error and millions of The Reformed® emerged from their hiding places (they had been practicing "real" Christianity all along) and began to practice YOPIOS.

12,985 posted on 10/19/2010 8:19:21 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
"Catholic clown worship gets 3,040,000 hits."

And since there are a thousand times more Catholics in the world than Presbyterians, all things being equal there there should be a thousand times (1x10^3) more Catholic Clown Mass hits. But all things aren't equal. There are a league of anti-Catholics propagating the myth that Clown Mass is both a mainstream practice and endorsed by the Church.

BTW - are you going to add this to your repertoire of anti-Catholic hit pieces you will trot out the next time you are losing an argument on line or will you just add it to the queue?

12,986 posted on 10/19/2010 8:21:32 AM PDT by Natural Law (Don't automatically presume the voices in your hear are the Holy Spirit.)
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To: TSgt; Judith Anne; metmom
It must be a heavy burden to carry that bored and tiresome attitude around. Without ceasing, and yet, with much posting, just to let everyone know the tired and bored life of perpetual pinched lips continues. Is there not a patron saint of doom and gloom to be prayed to? Surely one exists. Or should.

BTW, it's PRAY without ceasing. NOT BRAY without ceasing.

12,987 posted on 10/19/2010 8:24:08 AM PDT by smvoice (Defending the Indefensible: The Pride of a Pawn.)
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To: Cronos; Dr. Eckleburg; RnMomof7; metmom; D-fendr
An Empire built on lies — are you talking about the Unitarians who deny the Trinity and the divinity of Christ?

Yes. The same Unitarians who, through forgery and deceit, built armies, seized territories, seized wealth and treasure, named Emperors, and deposed Emperors. Those Unitarians.

The same Unitarians who imaginanitively claim 1.2 billion members who practice the same faith. Those Unitarians.

The same Unitarians who, since the days of Constantine, have continued to build upon lies and deceit.

For example:

This is perhaps the most famous forgery in history. For centuries, until Lorenzo Valla proved it was forgery during the Renaissance it provied the basis for papal territorial and jurisdictional claims in Italy. Probably at least a first draft of it was made shortly after the middle of the eighth century in order to assist Pope Stephen II in his negotiations with the Frankish Mayor of the Palace, Pepin the Short. The Pope crossed the Alps to anoint the latter as king in 754, thereby enabling, the Carolingian family, to which Pepin belonged, to supplant the old Merovingian royal line which had become decadent and powerless and to become in law as well as in fact rulers of the Franks. In return, Pepin seems to have promised to give to the Pope those lands in Italy which the Lombards had taken from Byzantium. The promise was fulfilled in 756. Constantine's alleged gift made it possible to interpret Pepin's grant not as a benefaction but as a restoration.

The Donation of Constantine

12,988 posted on 10/19/2010 8:25:00 AM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am a Biblical Unitarian?)
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To: kosta50
looks like the poor man's scientology

she is as Protestant as it gets

potato uh, potato.

12,989 posted on 10/19/2010 8:25:24 AM PDT by Legatus (Keep calm and carry on)
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To: TSgt; Jaded; Judith Anne; Legatus; maryz; NYer; Salvation; Pyro7480; Coleus; narses; annalex; ...
Certain groups definitely CAUCUS more than others and are anti-debate/discussion.

Yep, you caught us!

The fact that at any given time there is an anti-Catholic thread going on with over 500 posts is certainly evidence that Catholics caucus too much and are anti-debate.

That's some brilliant deductive reasoning, how did you do it?

12,990 posted on 10/19/2010 8:25:32 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
"Yep. One. Compared to 3,040,000 Catholic Clown worship."

LOL, but even IF it was only one it was still attended by a greater percentage of world's Presbyterians than the percentage of Catholics who have attended a similar Catholic service. If it was the OPC it was probably all of them......(how many clowns can you fit in a phone booth?)

12,991 posted on 10/19/2010 8:25:51 AM PDT by Natural Law (Don't automatically presume the voices in your hear are the Holy Spirit.)
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To: kosta50

ROFL


12,992 posted on 10/19/2010 8:32:38 AM PDT by Jaded (Stumbling blocks ALL AROUND, some of them camouflaged well. My toes hurt, but I got past them.)
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To: Judith Anne
"Follow the rules."

What do the rules say about impersonating a mod?

12,993 posted on 10/19/2010 8:32:58 AM PDT by Natural Law (Don't automatically presume the voices in your hear are the Holy Spirit.)
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To: TSgt

It would appear that for some

a theological RC rabid clique caucus would be where they get together in one interminably long pseudo-intellectual group hug until a white goo-like substance starts to flow as from a pustule.

Thankfully, we don’t have SMELL-O-FREEP yet.


12,994 posted on 10/19/2010 8:39:42 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: boatbums
"That is not a correct statement. Biblical Archaeologists have made and continue to make astounding discoveries that overwhelmingly support events described in the Bible."

I am going to have to side with BB on this one. However, some of the archaeological evidence may make us change some of our timelines and interpretations. In some cases findings that do not support the biblical versions remain unexplained and often uncorroborated by secondary evidence.

The bottom line is this, the Bible is a theological book, not a science or history book. Its purpose is to communicate the the Word of God, not to provide an actual historical record.

12,995 posted on 10/19/2010 8:39:44 AM PDT by Natural Law (Don't automatically presume the voices in your hear are the Holy Spirit.)
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To: smvoice

BTW, it’s PRAY without ceasing. NOT BRAY without ceasing.


Very apt. Good one. Guffaws.


12,996 posted on 10/19/2010 8:40:50 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: smvoice
BTW, it's PRAY without ceasing.
NOT BRAY without ceasing.


12,997 posted on 10/19/2010 8:42:24 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix

LOL! The OFFICIAL Bray without ceasing POST-card!


12,998 posted on 10/19/2010 8:47:08 AM PDT by smvoice (Defending the Indefensible: The Pride of a Pawn.)
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To: TSgt
"One's inability to debate without crying to the Religion Moderator is tiresome..."

Hence the root of the misunderstanding. Catholics do not debate religion. We speak from a position of authority. It is the anti-Catholics who gnash their teeth and rail against that authority.

12,999 posted on 10/19/2010 8:50:52 AM PDT by Natural Law (Don't automatically presume the voices in your hear are the Holy Spirit.)
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To: conservonator; maryz; Quix; wagglebee
That's the one! In fact IIRC that was a continuation of a thread that was about a boy with gluten allergies and his families problems with how to handle his first communion.

Had no idea about the formula for max postings to a thread, I'm always impressed about what freepers know!

I don't believe that was the thread you have in mind.

IIRC, and I almost always do :-), the thread began about the Baptists ending talks with the Catholic Church. It evolved from that theme to such an extent it was renamed The Neverending Thread.

Now you have it from the horses -----. (Note it is a five letter word.)

13,000 posted on 10/19/2010 8:51:49 AM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am a Biblical Unitarian?)
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