To: Pyro7480; OLD REGGIE; Alex Murphy; RnMomof7; boatbums; 1000 silverlings; Quix
OLD REGGIE: For how many centuries prior to 1950 (was the assumption of Mary commemorated liturgically?)PYRO 74: Since at least the time of the Council of Ephesus, which took place in the 5th century.
Where's the proof of that?
There were three Councils of Ephesus, and only the first one mentioned Mary, and that only peripherally in relation to Nestorianism.
NOTHING about Mary being sinless or assumed bodily into heaven.
To: Dr. Eckleburg
Says The Catholic Encyclopedia about Mary being assumed into heaven,
“The belief in the corporeal assumption of Mary is founded on the apocryphal treatise De Obitu S. Dominae, bearing the name of St. John, which belongs however to the fourth or fifth century. It is also found in the book De Transitu Virginis, falsely ascribed to St. Melito of Sardis, and in a spurious letter attributed to St. Denis the Areopagite.”
“Fourth or fifth century”. And the writings considered therein genuine are from the seventh and eighth centuries.
“apocryphal, falsely ascribed. spurious” that's the basis for belief in the assumption of Mary!
8,942 posted on
10/06/2010 12:49:16 AM PDT by
count-your-change
(You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
To: Dr. Eckleburg
Now now.
There ya go agin.
. . . . evidently forgetting that the Vatican’s Alice In Wonderland School of Theology and Reality Mangling
MUST abide by an unrubberized historic account . . .
At that rate, the Cardinal Mad Hatter will be miffed that you don’t think he’s doing his magicsterical rubbery best any more.
/s
8,967 posted on
10/06/2010 7:37:41 AM PDT by
Quix
(Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
To: Dr. Eckleburg; Pyro7480; OLD REGGIE; Alex Murphy; RnMomof7; boatbums; 1000 silverlings; Quix
OLD REGGIE: For how many centuries prior to 1950 (was the assumption of Mary commemorated liturgically?)
PYRO 74: Since at least the time of the Council of Ephesus, which took place in the 5th century.
Where's the proof of that?
There were three Councils of Ephesus, and only the first one mentioned Mary, and that only peripherally in relation to Nestorianism.
NOTHING about Mary being sinless or assumed bodily into heaven.
Thanks for your research. It seems that there is a highly specialized Catholic Dictionary with it's own understanding of "always believed".
9,098 posted on
10/06/2010 1:21:24 PM PDT by
OLD REGGIE
(I am a Biblical Unitarian?)
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