Posted on 08/27/2010 9:14:30 PM PDT by hiho hiho
Or this one maybe...
Interesting.
My what a clever pile of molecules. I’m so glad it shared its thoughts, or whatever they are, with us. Funny how a chemistry experiment can be so opinionated about things, and so certain that what it says is “true”.
Physics is fascinating, isn’t it?
Mr. Musall fully embodies the concept of being lost. He certainly needs our prayers.
“So, it’s somehow God’s fault that the photographer would rather get a Pulitzer prize than actually stop to carry that child to the feeding station?”
I would have taken the photo. Then carried the child to the aid station.
Paging Whittaker Chambers...
If the atheist is correct, then the Christian has somehow tapped into an unidentified power to become a new creation. At the end of his/her existence, that Christian was able to leave a more positive impact on the world because of his/her faith.
But what if the Christian is right?
What can I say? Wisdom is a pain that is never inflicted on some.
I feel sorry for the man, for both his limited understanding and for being proud of it enough to share.
ah yes. So when Atheists staved 20 million Ukrainians, it was God’s fault.
When Mao starved 40 million Chinese, it was God’s fault.
And when Christians go into the worst hellholes of the world to give medical care and food, well, it’s God’s fault too...
I know I’m being snotty, but if he was an honest Atheist, he would be thinking: Since there is no God, I guess I’m stuck fixing the problem...which is why he isn’t honest, just making God a scapegoat for the problem of evil...
Well, not necessarily. It's pretty clear that belief or non-belief is a very poor indicator as to whether or not someone will do positive things in their life.
As evidence of this, I cite the entirety of world history since the death of Christ.
I look at it a little differently. I firmly believe that there is a higher consciousness in the universe than that of man, and I suspect that the universe exists as a thought of that consciousness. Whether it resembles any of the various and sundry Gods that humanity has postulated over the ages, I do not know.
As to whether God interacts with or interceeds on behalf of humans, I have seen no evidence that convinces me. I have not refused to look, in fact I have spent a fair part of my 64 years looking. Every argument that I have heard can be dismissed on the grounds that somebody was mistaken, somebody lied, or there is a simpler explanation.
I of course may be wrong, and there are those who would suggest that I “believe” just in case. Unfortunately a rational mind cannot work that way.
When Jeff gets to 8th grade he’s going to be embarrassed by all this tripe he wrote in 7th.
Amazing because I once flew into a rage at a coworker who claimed God had helped her find something that she had lost. I was very upset about Rwanda at the time. I remember showing her the cover of Time with small feet and hands floating down a river of red - in Rwanda.
There are many good people in Portland.
You poor thing. The world is a better and fairer place than at any point in history.
Less people die as a percentage of the global population than at any time in history.
Is each life valuable? Sure, but God set up a natural order and then their is man’s evil.
If God saved every life, what would the value of that life really be?
What would the human condition be?
Would man’s character be strengthened if God was an interventionist God?
How would you learn without failure? Defeat? Winning? Achievement?
How would the human condition be improved if man never learned the arts and sciences? By that I mean, why would man struggle to learn a new thing to avoid pain or gain pleasure.
If God intervened, always, there would be no reason for man to seek out solutions.
There would be no man vs man, man vs nature and there would damn little of man vs himself.
He would be responsible for nothing since God would intervene whenever called.
You don’t have to believe in God but he most surely knows who you are.
You can hate God and he will still be waiting, at the door, for you his most loved child and son.
Is there a particuliar reason you have sought this attention? When in fact most on FR do believe in God?
hummm....you have forgotten who you are.
Hiho, hiho it’s over your head I know. . .
Anyway, my crummy joke aside, there is no such thing as collective salvation. If there was your personal wishes would always be subordinated to group, clique and clan rules, even in the realm of spirituality.
No, your salvation is personal and your relationship with God is as singular as the one you have with your parents, even if you are from a large family.
You are unique and have personal needs like no one else and God recognizes that as unique individuals you should be treated as such, so that your experiences are solely unique to the life you live.
How can you hate what you don’t believe in? It’s like the atheist standing up on the roof of his house, screaming, “YOU DON’T EXIST! YOU DON’T EXIST!” at the sky.
You have used the word God over twenty times in your post....if you don’t believe there is a God then exactly who are you objecting to?
I like that perspective:
Scapegoating God.
You know, I could go on and on about that with some atheist I know and still others who blame, erh, damn God for everything.
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