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Was Mary Sinless?
The Aristophrenium ^ | 12/05/2010 | " Fisher"

Posted on 12/05/2010 6:14:57 PM PST by RnMomof7

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1 posted on 12/05/2010 6:15:00 PM PST by RnMomof7
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Only Jesus was without sin. Everyone else is human.


2 posted on 12/05/2010 6:15:35 PM PST by GeronL
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>>Was Mary Sinless?<<

Yes.

The Jesuits have spent a lot of time, effort and booze to undermine base Catholic teachings.

God chose Mary because she was sinless — and He absolved her of Original Sin (As the Creator of the Universe this wasn’t too tough for Him).


3 posted on 12/05/2010 6:17:48 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Lt. Drebin: Like a blind man at an orgy, I was going to have to feel my way through.)
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riiiiiigggghhht....the MOTHER of GOD was a HUGE SINNER!! Yeah...that makes PERFECT sense!! God would ALWAYS chose a big sinner to give birth to His Son!!

WHAT sins did she commit?? LIES?? CHEATING??? CURSING?? MURDER??? Please tell me what sins she committed.....please tell us all..yeah.....SO MANY you can't name them, I guess. Yeah...MAry was a HUGE sinner!

4 posted on 12/05/2010 6:20:07 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: GeronL

Amen!


5 posted on 12/05/2010 6:21:02 PM PST by MrLee (Sha'alu Shalom Yerushalyim!! God bless Eretz Israel.)
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To: 1000 silverlings; metmom; boatbums; Quix; Gamecock; count-your-change; Alex Murphy; Diamond; ...

Does the condition of Marys soul matter to our salvation?


6 posted on 12/05/2010 6:21:36 PM PST by RnMomof7 (Gal 4:16 asks "Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?")
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To: GeronL

Amen !


7 posted on 12/05/2010 6:22:11 PM PST by RnMomof7 (Gal 4:16 asks "Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?")
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WHAT sins did she commit?? LIES?? CHEATING??? CURSING?? MURDER??? Please tell me what sins she committed.....please tell us all..yeah.....SO MANY you can't name them, I guess. Yeah...MAry was a HUGE sinner!

The bible says if you break ONE of the commandments you have broken them all (Jam 2:10)... so if she every talked back to her mother, she would be an adulterer and murder and a thief.. just as we all are..

My question was does the state of HER soul affect our salvation??

8 posted on 12/05/2010 6:26:15 PM PST by RnMomof7 (Gal 4:16 asks "Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?")
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1 john 1:8-10 If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

That applies to EVERYONE on the planet born of a human father.

9 posted on 12/05/2010 6:26:27 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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WHAT sins did she commit?? LIES?? CHEATING??? CURSING?? MURDER???

Like every other mortal human, she undoubtedly committed all of these and more.
10 posted on 12/05/2010 6:27:07 PM PST by armydoc
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To: freedumb2003

How do you know that for sure.. AND does it matter in your salvation??


11 posted on 12/05/2010 6:27:16 PM PST by RnMomof7 (Gal 4:16 asks "Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?")
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God chose Mary because of her blood lines.

She had the right pedigree.....


12 posted on 12/05/2010 6:27:19 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: armydoc

I agree, like all of us she needed a Savior


13 posted on 12/05/2010 6:28:35 PM PST by RnMomof7 (Gal 4:16 asks "Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?")
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To: Ann Archy

Man is intrinsically a sinner, no?


14 posted on 12/05/2010 6:30:21 PM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: metmom

Archie Bunker:

“Yeah, Jesus was a Jew, but only on his mother’s side...”


15 posted on 12/05/2010 6:30:32 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: RnMomof7
Does the condition of Marys soul matter to our salvation?

No. Jesus was sinless because of His divine nature. Sin comes from within, not from without.

Matthew 15:17-20 Do you not see that whatever goes into the mouth passes into the stomach and is expelled? But what comes out of the mouth proceeds from the heart, and this defiles a person. For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false witness, slander. These are what defile a person. But to eat with unwashed hands does not defile anyone."

Jesus is not defiled with physical contact with sinful people. If that were the case, He would have been defiled the first time he touched anyone but his mother.

16 posted on 12/05/2010 6:32:05 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: MrB

LOL!!!


17 posted on 12/05/2010 6:33:35 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: RnMomof7

>>How do you know that for sure.. AND does it matter in your salvation??<<

CCD - I have no reason to think the nuns altered the storyline.

And my salvation is between me and my God, thank you very much.

You should be concerned about YOUR salvation since you choose to disparage the Mother of Christ. She is much more active than a lot of other saints.


18 posted on 12/05/2010 6:33:35 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Lt. Drebin: Like a blind man at an orgy, I was going to have to feel my way through.)
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I thought God chose Mary because He had counseled one of the Prophets to predict her existence ~ she is one of those rare people ~ there's a prophesy about her.

Although not currently popular in Catholic, or even most Evangelical circles, there is a way to understand the Messianic prophecies that allows for the coming of both a male and a female Messiah, or one, or the other depending on the circumstances at the time chosen.

This approach actually plays to the Immaculate Conception, and recognizes that as part of the process of delivering up a Messiah to this world.

Alas, the concept of a female Messiah runs counter to all those arguments about why God decided that only men should be Catholic priests.

We'll need to schedule that debate for another age ~

19 posted on 12/05/2010 6:33:47 PM PST by muawiyah (GIT OUT THE WAY ~ REPUBLICANS COMIN' THROUGH)
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To: metmom
No. Jesus was sinless because of His divine nature. Sin comes from within, not from without.

Exactly ! Jesus inherited His divinity FROM HIS DADS SIDE OF THE FAMILY..:)

Mom did not contribute to His divinity, She contributed His humanity.. and we do run ino a problem here..for if mom was a goddess and we know his Father is a Holy and Righteous God.. from where did Jesus get His humanity.. ...Just askin

20 posted on 12/05/2010 6:35:19 PM PST by RnMomof7 (Gal 4:16 asks "Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?")
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