Oh you mean like the liberalism that teaching the Earth is NOT the center of the universe? That would get you burnt at the stake at one time in Rome. We are not talking about morals here like changing the view on murder but something as silly as allowing priest to be married or not.
I guess you reject what Jesus says then.
Show me the voice recording or actual words written by Jesus himself where he says priest need to be celibate. It was a man man creation written by infallible men who have interpreted their own meaning of it through the centuries.
You never answered my question. Is a pastor who has done great things spreading the word of God his whole life looked upon any less by God?? My friend always wanted to be a priest not a deacon but he fell in love with his HS sweetheart 30 years ago.
GCC Catholic. You said priest by being celibate are available 365/24/7. When my Catholic Mom was dying in the hospital my Dad's Methodist minister showed up to comfort him. They work more than a 9-5 job also.
My church is a "training" church. They bring in priest right out of the seminary for 6 month to a year and then they do onto a permanent position elsewhere. Yes, there are fine young priest and I am sure you are one of them. However, The last 3 out of 4 we have had we terrible. As long as you limit available candidates you are going to get a lesser candidates as a whole.
Show me the voice recording or actual written words by Jesus of anything.
Don't you understand the Creed you profess every Sunday and that you are agreeing to it with your "Amen"? Do you understand Sacred Tradition, Magisterial teaching and the Word of God and how they are related as a Catholic? Do you understand the "loosing and binding" charge of the Church?
You never answered my question. Is a pastor who has done great things spreading the word of God his whole life looked upon any less by God?? My friend always wanted to be a priest not a deacon but he fell in love with his HS sweetheart 30 years ago.
We are all judged by God so I cannot presume to say as you do. I do know what that He left the Church as a visible sign of his teaching authority.
Can we question the Church, absolutely? Should we question the teaching and discipline of the church thru ignorance? Absolutely not. That would be irresponsible.
Your friend would have to become a deacon first before a priest anyway. Why doesn't he serve in the capacity he can? Why is he insistent of him getting his way? How is this the Church's fault? Your friend chose his vocation 30 years ago. You wont answer my question, "why doesn't your friend become a permanent deacon so that he can serve the Church?" Sounds more like your friend wants to serve himself with that attitude.
My church is a "training" church. They bring in priest right out of the seminary for 6 month to a year and then they do onto a permanent position elsewhere. Yes, there are fine young priest and I am sure you are one of them. However, The last 3 out of 4 we have had we terrible.
As long as you limit available candidates you are going to get a lesser candidates as a whole.
Tell that to the Marines.
We are talking about something in the realm of Church discipline. Yes, the Latin Rite could change the discipline. I don't think it will, nor would I want it to.
Show me the voice recording or actual words written by Jesus himself where he says priest need to be celibate. It was a man man creation written by infallible men who have interpreted their own meaning of it through the centuries.
We don't have anything that Jesus wrote - If we used this criterion on everything, Christianity would be without content. A complete void. The only time we ever hear of Jesus writing is where He wrote on the ground at the attempted stoning of the woman caught in adultery.
The Church's only testimony to the teachings and Works of Jesus are what we have received from the preaching of the Apostles - both through writing and through oral tradition. And part of that testimony is the teaching of Jesus that it is laudable to be celibate for the sake of the Kingdom. St. Paul even tells us that it is preferable to be single and be able to work zealously for the things of the Lord - but that not everyone is called to that life.
That said, priests don't NEED to be celibate - there are married priests in the Eastern Rites, as well as a small handful in the Latin Rite who have received special dispensations under extraordinary circumstances. But the longstanding tradition has been for celibate clergy - and there continue to be very good practical and spiritual reasons to do that.
One significant one remains that availability - and a married man simply does not have the same availability and flexibility as a celibate one. A bishop is limited in what he can justly ask of a married priest, because the bishop must consider the priest's wife and children. And the priest himself cannot take on as much because he must maintain his responsibilities to his wife and children.
I don't see how the small handful of Latin Rite priests who have been granted the dispensation actually make it work. I really cannot understand it, and they have my respect.
My church is a "training" church.[&c]
When you say that they're 'terrible'... what do you mean? Are they really inadequate in their preaching or in some other aspect of their ministry... or are they just green? If they are genuinely inadequate, it may be worth expressing a concern to the Diocese...
My friend always wanted to be a priest not a deacon but he fell in love with his HS sweetheart 30 years ago.
God will never call us to something that is impossible - God will not call a man to priesthood if it is impossible for a bishop to affirm that call on behalf of the Church. Given that it sounds like he is happily married, I would say that he was called to marriage, and not to priesthood.
But it sounds like there may be something genuine working on his heart... has he ever asked a priest to be his spiritual director to help tease out what exactly it is that is moving in his heart?