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To: Cronos; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; count-your-change; ...

The Catholic church is the one teaching transubstantiation, that the host becomes the literal body and blood of Christ and that one must eat of that to be saved. The FRoman Catholics on FR even quote from John 6 to support that doctrine.

If you have a problem with the claims that Catholics drink blood, you need to take that up with the church and other Catholics. They’re the ones telling us that’s what Jesus and His disciples did at the Last Supper and that’s what Catholics do at every mass.

But I see that this is getting back to the usual it’s OK for a Catholic to state something about Catholic doctrine, it but not for a non-Catholic to state something about Catholic doctrine.

Since you now seem to be denying it, does that mean you’ve finally come to your sense and recognize that it’s a SYMBOLIC gesture?

That would be an improvement.


822 posted on 12/19/2010 9:19:08 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; count-your-change
Yes, keep repeating untruths.

Do you realise that you are attacking Lutherans too with your false statement of "blood drinking"?
823 posted on 12/19/2010 9:30:43 PM PST by Cronos (Et Verbum caro factum est et habitavit in nobis (W Szczebrzeszynie chrzaszcz brzmi w trzcinie))
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To: metmom; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; count-your-change
The first announcement of the Eucharist divided the disciples, just as the announcement of the Passion scandalized them: "This is a hard saying; who can listen to it?" The Eucharist and the Cross are stumbling blocks. It is the same mystery and it never ceases to be an occasion of division. "Will you also go away?": the Lord's question echoes through the ages, as a loving invitation to discover that only he has "the words of eternal life" and that to receive in faith the gift of his Eucharist is to receive the Lord himself.

Congratulations to your group for constantly refusing The Lord our God, JEsus Christ.
824 posted on 12/19/2010 9:32:19 PM PST by Cronos (Et Verbum caro factum est et habitavit in nobis (W Szczebrzeszynie chrzaszcz brzmi w trzcinie))
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To: metmom; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; count-your-change
The Supper of the Lord, by the inerrant testimony of the Lord and His apostles, consists both of that which is seen and that which is unseen, of that which is temporal and that which is eternal, of that which is of the creation and that which is of the Creator. It is something that by its very description and definition defies human logic and explanation. Nevertheless what Jesus says of it is to be believed. There is peril in calling Him a liar. Better than that is to say, “I’m not sure and I don’t understand, but I believe my Lord, who never lies to me or to anyone.”

Congratulations to your group for constantly calling The Lord our God, JEsus Christ, a liar
825 posted on 12/19/2010 9:33:56 PM PST by Cronos (Et Verbum caro factum est et habitavit in nobis (W Szczebrzeszynie chrzaszcz brzmi w trzcinie))
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To: metmom; Cronos

Cronos, is that the best argument you can muster, that someone reads the Book of Acts and understands that the disciples (as well as Jesus who kept the Law perfectly) were Jews under Jewish Law, a law that forbade the eating of blood of any kind, certainly that of another human?


826 posted on 12/19/2010 9:36:04 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: metmom; Cronos

Cronos, is that the best argument in favor of Catholic doctrine you can muster, that someone reads the Book of Acts and understands that the disciples (as well as Jesus who kept the Law perfectly) were Jews under Jewish Law, a law that forbade the eating of blood of any kind, certainly that of another human?

“Jehovah’s Witnesses say that Jesus’ commands to eat his flesh and drink his blood in John 6 could not be literal because Jesus would be advocating something against God’s law by commanding us to eat blood.”


827 posted on 12/19/2010 9:38:22 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: metmom; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; count-your-change
Interesting that during this time of year where we celebrate Christ's birth...the fact the discussions are NOT about Him, rather Mary

And it's a very interesting question. Why exactly are some folks (non-Catholics all, like you, G or Rn etc.) so obsessed with this during this time of the year when we celebrate Christ's birth?

No matter, your group can keep it's non-Christ focused obsessions, in the meanwhile in Christ's Church, the One Holy Apostolic Catholic Church, we'll celebrate Christ's birth

Your group's obsessive focus away from Christ can keep going on...

828 posted on 12/19/2010 9:40:07 PM PST by Cronos (Et Verbum caro factum est et habitavit in nobis (W Szczebrzeszynie chrzaszcz brzmi w trzcinie))
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To: metmom; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; count-your-change
Let's revoew your particular cult's history - it was founded by dude in the 60s, it has had at least one split in the past decade, and that or the original split which formed your group was due to embezzlement of funds or accusing the other group of "satanic gospel" or both.

Further, it will have strange rules about drinking wine, claiming perhaps that Jesus did not drink it, or that it is impure. It will also deny a lot of the Old Testament and it's readings each Sunday will be exclusively focused on Pauline Epistles with no readings from the Gospels or other Epistles.

Finally, your cult's leader will have on Sunday "meetings", a shout-and-shout session at which he will shout random readings from the bible at you and everyone will turn to the pages in question, read it and have no time to digest it, but will still get this puffed-up feeling that they have actually read the bible
829 posted on 12/19/2010 9:43:46 PM PST by Cronos (Et Verbum caro factum est et habitavit in nobis (W Szczebrzeszynie chrzaszcz brzmi w trzcinie))
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