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God was behind Big Bang, universe no accident: Pope
Yahoo News ^ | January 6, 2011 | Philip Pullella

Posted on 01/06/2011 6:32:35 AM PST by starlifter

VATICAN CITY (Reuters) – God's mind was behind complex scientific theories such as the Big Bang, and Christians should reject the idea that the universe came into being by accident, Pope Benedict said on Thursday.

"The universe is not the result of chance, as some would want to make us believe," Benedict said on the day Christians mark the Epiphany, the day the Bible says the three kings reached the site where Jesus was born by following a star.

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TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Current Events; General Discusssion; Religion & Science
KEYWORDS: bigbang; creation
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1 posted on 01/06/2011 6:32:39 AM PST by starlifter
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To: starlifter

God Gives Us More Bang Than the Buck


2 posted on 01/06/2011 6:37:49 AM PST by bunkerhill7
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To: starlifter
While the pope has spoken before about evolution, he has rarely delved back in time to discuss specific concepts such as the Big Bang, which scientists believe led to the formation of the universe some 13.7 billion years ago.

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3 posted on 01/06/2011 6:38:31 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("Posting news feeds, making eyes bleed, he's hated on seven continents")
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To: starlifter

Y’ol general relativity pope.


4 posted on 01/06/2011 6:38:53 AM PST by campaignPete R-CT (Palin '12 begins in '11. In western New Hampshire pour moi.)
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To: starlifter

Well D’uh.


5 posted on 01/06/2011 6:40:19 AM PST by PfromHoGro (RINOs give Rhino a bad name.)
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To: starlifter

I’m not Catholic but I agree with the Pope on this item. I suppose those interpreting Genesis literally arent going to like this especially.


6 posted on 01/06/2011 6:40:46 AM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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I don't care what you say. That's just funny. :)
7 posted on 01/06/2011 6:52:12 AM PST by starlifter (Pullum sapit)
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There is a wonderful explanation of how creation actually follows the biblical 6 days formula in Dinesh D’Souza’s book “Whats So Great About Christianity”. Of course a biblical “day” is not a “calendar” day.


8 posted on 01/06/2011 6:52:58 AM PST by mc5cents (Government doesn't solve problems, it subsidizes them. -- Ronald Reagan)
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Some atheists say science can prove that God does not exist

Have at it boys.

You can’t prove a negative.

9 posted on 01/06/2011 6:53:02 AM PST by Pontiac
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"We are not some casual and meaningless product of evolution. Each of us is the result of a thought of God. Each of us is willed, each of us is loved, each of us is necessary."
-Pope Benedict XVI

10 posted on 01/06/2011 6:53:18 AM PST by Heartlander (You are either the doer, or the dude)
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What a beautiful quote...


11 posted on 01/06/2011 6:55:26 AM PST by sipwine
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We are not some casual and meaningless product of evolution.
But, but, I thought ...

12 posted on 01/06/2011 7:00:13 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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...the day the Bible says the three kings reached the site where Jesus was born...

I don't think the Bible says there were three kings. It says there were three types of gift IIRC.

13 posted on 01/06/2011 7:07:59 AM PST by RingerSIX (My wife and I took an AIDS vaccine that they offer down at our Church.)
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“Have at it boys. You can’t prove a negative.”

It's really the anti-intellectual position that readily embraces the idea that there is no reason for existence. What existed before the ‘big bang’, if indeed the big bang theory is definitively accurate? Are the ‘laws’ of physics, which humans formulated to explain what we observe of the universe, immutable? Are they the same everywhere? How many times in the future will ‘laws’ have to be revised to explain new observations/new phenomena? Anyone who says something as stupid as claiming to be able to prove God doesn't exist doesn't qualify as a scientist in my book.

14 posted on 01/06/2011 7:42:50 AM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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“We are not some casual and meaningless product of evolution.”

This means “We ARE a caused and meaningful product of evolution.” It’s a statement about theology and philosophy. Standard science is not being questioned here. The Church has no problem with the Primordial Soup idea.


15 posted on 01/06/2011 8:01:00 AM PST by Varda
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“There is a wonderful explanation of how creation actually follows the biblical 6 days formula in Dinesh D’Souza’s book “Whats So Great About Christianity”. Of course a biblical “day” is not a “calendar” day.”

Not sure if D’Souza quotes the Israeli physicist Gerald Schroeder, but Schroeder’s is a wonderful scientific explanation that should satisfy anyone with a basic High School understanding of science. See http://www.geraldschroeder.com/AgeUniverse.aspx


16 posted on 01/06/2011 8:09:47 AM PST by Nabber
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Prov 16:33 The dice are cast into the lap, but every result is from the Lord.

Just because we observe a predictable pattern of randomness in physical phenomena does NOT mean that God is not in control of even these processes which we observe to be random.

Many seem to have a big bugaboo about randomness, as if God’s power stops at the casino door. IT DOES NOT!


17 posted on 01/06/2011 8:16:01 AM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: Varda
The Church has no problem with the Primordial Soup idea.
Only if life was started there as a result of Divine action, not some random combination of chemicals dumped by a passing comet.
18 posted on 01/06/2011 8:23:26 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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Consider all matter and energy, every last bit ever in existence from every planet, star, rock, black hole, etc. Now compress it all into a spot smaller than the head of a pin, which then explodes with such force to create the entire vast universe. Tell me that isn’t proof of God’s existence.


19 posted on 01/06/2011 8:33:46 AM PST by TexasAg
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It's really the anti-intellectual position that readily embraces the idea that there is no reason for existence.

The first thing that you learn in science as a young child is “Cause and Effect”. Indeed it is one of the first things that a baby learns; if you drop an object it falls to the floor. The cause; releasing the grip on an object. The effect; the object falls to the floor.

Well consider the Big Bang and the subsequent creation of the universe an effect; what then is the cause?

Science has as far as I know offered no answer to that question.

If the answer is not God then what is?

20 posted on 01/06/2011 8:38:09 AM PST by Pontiac
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