**There’s a cult group headquartered near where I live which rejects the Trinity also, and they make exactly the same error you make here in their attempt to refute Trinitarianism.**
Throwing the term ‘cult group’ around is something to not take lightly, so you should also solidify your claim with a name of said group.
Do I deny the trinity? It’s not hard when neither the LORD, nor even the apostles ever taught anything like the trinitarian ‘Creeds’.
A brief example of the confusion those ‘creeds’ display is shown in the following numbered lines from a posting of the so-called ‘Athanasian Creed’:
**10. The Father is eternal: the Son eternal: the Holy Spirit eternal.
22. The Son is of the Father alone: not made; nor created; but begotten.**
Eternal=begotten?? (gonna need a rubber dictionary to make those mean the same thing)
The following statement is contradictory to the verse which follows it.
**25. And in this Trinity none is before or after another: none is greater or less than another.**
“..I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.” John 14:28
And this:
**12. As also there are not three uncreated: nor three immeasurable: but one uncreated, and one immeasurable.**
??
So there are TWO that ARE created, and TWO that ARE measurable?? (my head hurts now)
More confusion:
**13. So likewise the Father is almighty: the Son almighty: and the Holy Spirit almighty.**
If one is almighty, there is no need for the others. If one needs the others, that one is not almighty.
And these next ones........?????????????
17. So the Father is Lord: the Son Lord: and the Holy Spirit Lord.
18. And yet not three Lords; but one Lord.
19. For like as we are compelled by the Christian verity to acknowledge every Person by himself to be God and Lord:
20. So are we forbidden by the catholic religion to say, there are three Gods, or three Lords.
?????????
Tell me, now who is it that is the author of confusion?
And how does a ‘trinitarian’ explain this: “But of that day and hour knoweth....my Father only” (the ‘2nd and 3rd persons of God’ don’t know??)
Shifting gears:
Does sheer numbers make a doctrine true; as in millions of people and centuries of ‘tradition’?
Of all the world, only Noah’s family was saved in the flood. A tiny fraction of the population. Jesus Christ declared that the way is strait and narrow, and few there be that find it.
I ask these two questions:
What divine powerful attribute did the Son give to the Father, if any?
If the Holy Ghost is a ‘separate and distinct person of God’, what divine powerful attribute can it give to the Father that the Father doesn’t already have?
My answer to both is that the Father is the source of all things divine (my previous post covers this fact).
Something isn’t true because it’s old, but in this case for a doctrine to be true, it must have been taught by the Apostles and understood and taught by the successors of the Apostles. What you believe is not orthodox, historical Christianity. The Apostles taught and the Church has received the doctrine of the Trinity. Can you trace your concept of God thru the centuries. If the Jesus was correct, the gates of hell would not prevail against the Church, where was your non-trinitarian church in the 2nd century? how about the 5th century? 8th century? Seems to me you hold to Cambellism, which was started in the 19th century.