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To: MarkBsnr; Quix
Scripture does not show God predestining anyone to damnation. God desires all to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth (1 Tim. 2:3-4).

This truth is acknowledged by all Orthodox, Copts, Catholics, Armenians, Assyrians, Lutherans,Anglicans, Methodists, Pentecostals.

only the followers of Calvin have the unscriptural view denying that the love of God is there for all sinners. No one goes to hell because God pre-damns him.

The ones who do, resist the Holy Spirit's work: Act 13:46; 7:51; Matt. 23:37
2,196 posted on 01/30/2011 9:42:48 PM PST by Cronos
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To: Cronos
Scripture does not show God predestining anyone to damnation. God desires all to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth (1 Tim. 2:3-4).

Affirmative. However, I had read some long, winding and impassible windage from certain Calvinists who claim that 'all' here only means the elected selected elite.

only the followers of Calvin have the unscriptural view denying that the love of God is there for all sinners. No one goes to hell because God pre-damns him.

You mean that God is not in control? Horrors!!!! What is the Calvinist Imitation of Christ, I wonder...

The ones who do, resist the Holy Spirit's work: Act 13:46; 7:51; Matt. 23:37

You mean that the Holy Spirit does not report to Calvin?

2,334 posted on 01/31/2011 5:21:05 PM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so..)
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To: Cronos; MarkBsnr; Quix; Lera; metmom; RnMomof7; caww; HarleyD; wmfights; blue-duncan
Scripture does not show God predestining anyone to damnation

Men send themselves to hell all by themselves.

Does God give eyes to see and ears to hear to all men, to know the things of God and turn from their sin toward the light of Christ?

Obviously not.

Those whom God has freely gifted with grace through faith in Christ will believe and be brought to repentance, believe and be saved. Those He doesn't so gift will continue to love their sins and pay accordingly.

Thus, we are left with the following truth from God to help our understanding...

"Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,

And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.

But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;

Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy." -- 1 Peter 2:7

As Paul told us in Romans, some men are appointed to be vessels of His grace to display His mercy and others vessels of His wrath to display His justice.

Our job is not to question God by saying "why;" our job is to be grateful for His free gift of grace, and to preach the Gospel to all men, confident those whom God has called to Himself will respond in true faith.

2,544 posted on 02/01/2011 4:00:42 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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