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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Dr. e: Christ is truly present spiritually in the Lord’s Supper

Think about it, there are some people that believe the "presence" of Christ is spiritually discerned in the Communion elements, and there are others that demand that Christ meant it "literally", they will go so far as to say anyone who refuses to believe he/she is LITERALLY consuming real flesh and blood of Jesus cannot be saved. What I find the most confusing about this entire argument, is the ones who hold to literal flesh and blood, will be the first to try to explain that the elements don't really change into flesh and blood, but they, instead, remain the "accidents" of bread and wine, while mystically becoming the actual body and blood of the Savior. Now, I don't claim to be a scholar, but that sure as heck sounds like "spiritually" and NOT "literally". If the bread and wine do not miraculously change into human flesh and blood but remain for all eyes STILL bread and wine, then the obvious conclusion is that it is a spiritual belief. Is it pure stubbornness or is it blind obeisance that prevents some from admitting this?

3,238 posted on 02/04/2011 7:50:46 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: boatbums
Thank you for sharing your insights, dear sister in Christ!

Here is a Scripture that goes with the point you are making:

Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea; And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea; And did all eat the same spiritual meat; And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ. – 1 Cor 10:1-4

God's Name is I AM.

3,240 posted on 02/04/2011 8:15:26 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: boatbums

There are some who believe Christ’s words in John 6 and Paul’s writings in Corinthians (namely Orthodox, Copts, Catholics, Armenians, Ethiopians, Assyrians, Anglicans, Lutherans) and there are those who do not believe in Christ’s words in John 6(Calvinists)


3,335 posted on 02/07/2011 12:07:47 AM PST by Cronos
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