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The Presbyterian Church of [in] America on Genesis 1-3
sunandshield ^ | September 06, 2007 | PCA assembly

Posted on 01/25/2011 5:42:51 AM PST by Cronos

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To: topcat54

yes, the OPC broke from the PCUSA (which was called the PCA at the time) and tried to call themselves the PCA, but changed it to the OPC. Later the PCA changed to calling itself PCUSA and then you had the PCA arising. In the meanwhile the OPC broke split to form the BPC and later split again to form the EPC


41 posted on 01/25/2011 12:15:57 PM PST by Cronos
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To: Cronos
yes, the OPC broke from the PCUSA (which was called the PCA at the time) and tried to call themselves the PCA, but changed it to the OPC. Later the PCA changed to calling itself PCUSA and then you had the PCA arising. In the meanwhile the OPC broke split to form the BPC and later split again to form the EPC

Correction. The PC(USA) was never called the Presbyterian Church of [or in] America. In 1936 the northern Presbyterian Church was called the Presbyterian Church in the United States of America. When the 1936 break away group took the name Presbyterian Church of America, the larger body just didn’t like the names being so close, so they sued.

In 1958 the larger northern body adopted the name United Presbyterian Church in the United States of America (UPCUSA).

The larger southern Presbyterian Church was called the Presbyterian Church in the United States (PCUS). In 1973 the current PCA broke away from that group.

The main body north and south churches joined in 1983 to become the (current) Presbyterian Church (U.S.A).

You can track the history visually here. Warning: It’ll make your head hurt.

42 posted on 01/25/2011 12:51:42 PM PST by topcat54 ("Dispensationalism -- an error of Biblical proportions.")
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To: Cronos
Alex is a Presbyterian too — right Alex?

Who told you that?

43 posted on 01/25/2011 12:54:43 PM PST by Alex Murphy ("Posting news feeds, making eyes bleed, he's hated on seven continents")
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To: Zionist Conspirator; NCLaw441
NC -- ZC is correct. If we do not take the Bible to be completely literal, then how can we deny an evolutionist who says man evolved from ape-like creatures? We must accept the literal words in Genesis as just that, literal. Anything else is the first step on the slippery slope.

The first step is to deny the literal creation by God, then to deny that God made Adam and Eve as outlined, then to deny the garden of Eden and the fall and then to deny all of the Bible.

God created the world as he said in 7 days.
44 posted on 01/25/2011 1:49:26 PM PST by Cronos
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To: topcat54; Zionist Conspirator; wideawake

and I think the PCUSA — or is it the ECUSA that denies Genesis completely as a myth? But then they ECUSA now basically thinks the enire Judeo-Christian religion is a myth. So, just as accepting women priestess is the start of the slippery slope leading to Gene Robinson and accepting contraception is the start of the slippery slope leading to 1 million abortions a year in the USA alone, denying the validity of Genesis leads to the slippery slope of denying the entire Bible


45 posted on 01/25/2011 1:52:58 PM PST by Cronos
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To: topcat54

ok, so the OPC broke from the PCUSA, then the PCUSA became the UPCUSA and the PCUS. The the PCUS broke into the PCA and PCUS. Then the PCUS and UPCUSA joined to become the PCUSA. Meanwhile the OPC split into the BPC and EPC. Ouch!


46 posted on 01/25/2011 1:56:11 PM PST by Cronos
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ok, so the OPC broke from the PCUSA, then the PCUSA became the UPCUSA and the PCUS. The the PCUS broke into the PCA and PCUS. Then the PCUS and UPCUSA joined to become the PCUSA. Meanwhile the OPC split into the BPC and EPC. Ouch!

And, in 1982 the PCA and the Reformed Presbyterian Church Evangelical Synod (RPCES) came together in a process called “joining and receiving” whereby all the RPCES churches with their officers became members of the PCA. Thus the PCA is the conservative result of two prior groups coming together, one mainly Southern and the other mainly Northern.

47 posted on 01/25/2011 2:06:56 PM PST by topcat54 ("Dispensationalism -- an error of Biblical proportions.")
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To: Cronos; Zionist Conspirator; wideawake
The PCUSA is, by and large, quite liberal, although there are conservative enclaves. See The Presbyterian Layman and the Presbyterian Pro-Life (PPL) network.

In the last few years many (relatively) conservative PCUSA congregations have left that denomination and joined with another (relatively) conservative body, the Evangelical Presbyterian Church. So, it’s safe to say that the PCUSA has gotten even more liberal.

48 posted on 01/25/2011 2:11:32 PM PST by topcat54 ("Dispensationalism -- an error of Biblical proportions.")
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To: Cronos; Zionist Conspirator; NCLaw441
If we do not take the Bible to be completely literal,

If you are saying that we read the historical narratives in the Bible as history, then I would agree. But not all the Bible is meant to be taken literally, e.g., the Psalms are a book of poetry with poetic imagery. The prophets and Revelation are apocalyptic literature, again, with many symbols and images, that, while literally true, are not necessarily to be read “literally.”

The problem is when we try to read history as symbolism or allegory or prophecy as “history written in advance” as we would read the morning newspaper.

I take Genesis 1-3 as historical narrative so I believe the Bible teaches that the universe was created in 6 normal days, 6 evening-mornings.

49 posted on 01/25/2011 2:21:06 PM PST by topcat54 ("Dispensationalism -- an error of Biblical proportions.")
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To: topcat54; Zionist Conspirator; wideawake

Yes. the problem seems to be a slippery slope. If one says Gen 1 is a myth, I think the slop leads to saying the entire Bible is a myth


50 posted on 01/25/2011 9:43:29 PM PST by Cronos
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