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To: Natural Law; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; ...

Everyone who has lived on this earth either has died or will die. Of course they’re dead.

And of course it applies to prohibiting contacting those whom the Catholic church has labeled as saints, because when the Bible refers to the dead, it refers to those whose physical bodies have died.

Everyone who has died here on earth is alive somewhere. So that argument falls flat.

Those whose physical bodies have died here on earth are the ones who we are prohibited from trying to contact and God has not changed.

It never ceases to amaze me how Catholics try to justify their disobedience to God with that kind of semantics and hair splitting.

Aside from little details like the fact that SCRIPTURE gives no indication that anyone who has died can even hear us, that we are prohibited from contacting the dead, that we are commanded to pray to God the Father and have not been commanded to pray to anyone else, that SCRIPTURE gives NO indication of any dead person’s ability to answer our prayer, that there is no procedure spelled out in Scripture for the office of saint and the canonization process, the whole practice is fabricated and idolatrous to the core.

Time spent in prayer to someone besides God is time robbed from prayer to God.

Time spend worshiping (or “venerating” or “honoring” or whatever synonym of worship Catholics choose to use) anyone besides God is robbing God of His rightful worship and the honor due Him and Him alone.

The lengths to which Catholics will go in redefining terms and playing word games is clear enough indication that they KNOW deep down inside that it’s wrong and they are trying to do their best to justify it any way they can.


958 posted on 02/11/2011 8:06:16 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom
that SCRIPTURE gives no indication that anyone who has died can even hear us,

I see we are on the same thought at the same time.
960 posted on 02/11/2011 8:16:40 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: metmom
"And of course it applies to prohibiting contacting those whom the Catholic church has labeled as saints, because when the Bible refers to the dead, it refers to those whose physical bodies have died."

Now you have gone off the reservation and done exactly what you accuse other of. You have added to Scripture by extrapolating and adding definitions not found in Scripture. In the absence of a Magisterium exactly what did you draw on for that?

963 posted on 02/11/2011 9:14:48 PM PST by Natural Law (As a Catholic I know I am held to a higher standard (but it's worth it).)
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To: metmom
AMEN!

Time spent in prayer to someone besides God is time robbed from prayer to God.

Not only robs God, but it is also idolatry. Lift anyone or anything above God Almighty and you've created an idol.

Great post metmom.

Hoss

970 posted on 02/12/2011 5:00:02 AM PST by HossB86
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