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To: Natural Law
Are you doubting that St. Paul was celibate, or that he administered the Sacraments? Perhaps it is the word Catholic that distresses you.

You may want to make him a "priest" but there was no priesthood in the NT CHURCH

Jesus was the final Priest fulfilling the type we find in the OT

Was He celibate , most likely ..but remember there were generation of Roman priests that did marry.. and popes that had mistresses and wives ...Celibacy only became holy when the priests in Spain started to leave church property to their wives and children ...it was all about $$$$$$$$$

974 posted on 02/12/2011 10:22:41 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
"You may want to make him a "priest" but there was no priesthood in the NT CHURCH"

That is patently false, but since the hundreds of previous rebuttals in this forum have not opened your eyes no amount of additional information from me will have any effect. That St Paul refers to his “priestly ministry” in Romans 15:15-16, that he administered the sacraments, called himself a “steward of the mysteries”, and was celibate falls into the walks like a duck category. I would suggest you read "The Catholic Perspective on Paul: Paul and the Origins of Catholic Christianity" by Taylor Marshall. Marshall is a former Episcopalian priest and offers an interesting Protestant perspective.

Celibacy only became holy when the priests in Spain started to leave church property to their wives and children...

Again patently false. Although the first documented referenced came from the Synod of Elvira which was held in 305 AD in Hispania Baetica which is in modern day Spain, there were numerous other contemporaneous citations, not the least of which was by St. Ambrose who referred to the Old testament practice of priests refraining from sex in the days leading up to sacrifice and how the [then] modern priests were obliged to do the same. $$$$$$$ had nothing to do with it except in the propaganda of the reformation.

976 posted on 02/12/2011 11:22:25 AM PST by Natural Law (As a Catholic I know I am held to a higher standard (but it's worth it).)
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To: RnMomof7
Celibacy only became holy when the priests in Spain started to leave church property to their wives and children ...it was all about $$$$$$$$$

So much for the RCC never changing. Whatever is financially expedient.

978 posted on 02/12/2011 11:48:28 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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