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To: wintertime
Alright, you got me on the public schools contributing to the wealth. I got carried away there. That premise is probably unknowable because you could not do a double blind study.

As far as vouchers being constitutional, I have a problem with that. In my state there are several muslim charter schools that the children get vouchers for. So my tax money is going to educate future terrorists.

I also understand that in your world view there is no neutral. As is the case for many of the world religions. We do though have a secular government and based on that the best that government can do is be neutral.

This of course wasn't a problem for this country for the first 100 years because majority of Americans were some denomination of protestant.

The history of prayer and bible study in school is very interesting. The first group to attempt to get bible reading out of schools were the catholics in the 1850’s. This is because most schools were using the king james version of the bible. They actually won their case in front of the Wisconsin supreme court and bible reading banned in 1890 in that state. However, in most states they were not successful and in Philadelphia there was actual violence against catholics for their perceived attempt to stop the bible readings. This is one of the reasons that there are so many private catholic schools.

Fast forward to today were we are a much more diverse religious nation. Protestants now make up only 51% of the religious in this country. (CIA World factbook) So even though some people may see neutrality as an impossibility I believe the majority of Americans would support it.

Also remember that our constitution allows us to violate 7 of the 10 commandments.

41 posted on 02/14/2011 2:50:40 PM PST by armordog99
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To: armordog99
In my state there are several muslim charter schools that the children get vouchers for. So my tax money is going to educate future terrorists.

And...Before there were charters there were well-funded private Muslim schools doing the same.

This is an immigration problem. All immigration from Muslim countries should be stopped immediately. All students from Muslim countries should be required to leave immediately upon the completion of their undergraduate or graduate school educations.

Also...The **BEST** defense against Islam is to have a population of citizens well grounded in their Judeo Christian faith and our nation's founding principles...Neither of which they will ever get in a godless government and socialist school.

I also understand that in your world view there is no neutral.

What is this drivel? Did you learn this "reality is an individual construct" in a liberal/Marxist and godless government classroom?

FACT: All sentient beings have a non-neutral religious worldview. ALL schools have a religiously non-neutral worldview. They either teach from a godless perspective or one that is God-centered.

This of course wasn't a problem for this country for the first 100 years because majority of Americans were some denomination of protestant.

Then you didn't learn much about the history of government schooling in your godless government school.

In Philadelphia and other large cities their were riots with DEATHS over forced government schooling. In some parts of New England children were frog marched by armed police ( and very much against their parent's wishes) to their government assigned, prison-like government schools.

So even though some people may see neutrality as an impossibility I believe the majority of Americans would support it.

Did you learn to be comfortable with the voting mob violating the First Amendment and freedom of conscience in you godless government school? ( Just wondering.)

Also remember that our constitution allows us to violate 7 of the 10 commandments.

The Constitution does not allow the violation of the CONSTITUTION. The last I checked the Constitution is silent on the Ten Commandments ( all of them).

46 posted on 02/14/2011 3:23:48 PM PST by wintertime
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To: armordog99

Rationality shouldn’t be expected.

Great arguments, loved your posts.

I wonder is there a “God centered” or “Godless” way to teach Literature, Art, the theory of universal gravitation of mass, the history of China?


51 posted on 02/14/2011 10:23:20 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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