Posted on 04/03/2011 6:33:28 AM PDT by marshmallow
Therefore anybody that changes stuff after Paul is a Gnostic? Really?
Every rule has exceptions and you may be one of them, but yes, most socialists in the world are Catholics and Catholicism is a very European thing with its headquarters in Europe. Wherever Catholics dominate the population, they have foisted socialism. And yes, Sarah Palin’s support is very low among Catholics (6%) according to Christianity Today. Maybe you are part of the 6% but that does not prove anything. You did not answer my question: what have Catholics got against Christianity that they won’t convert?
SOOOO not true...How many queer pedos in the sane world get away with molesting or raping 10, 50 or even 200 unsuspecting kids while their handlers move them around the world to prevent them from being prosecuted???
And for all to see, we have another Catholic defending the criminal actions of this religion by trying to deflect the truth...
They've got you duped...Most people in your own religion don't even believe that real presence nonsense...
We Christians who don't EAT the real presence of Jesus Christ HAVE the real presence of Jesus Christ 24/7 as told by God's Holy Scriptures AND by the WITNESS of the Holy Spirit living within each one of us...
Praise God...
So denying that something is done as often as charged is defending it?
Um... didn’t Rice write a ton of books filled with pedophila? She had books with baby vampires (did they have sex? I don’t know) but she also had books about priests and young boys (Cry to Heaven). Who is she kidding?
Rice ain’t nice.
And, oh, the Catholic Church is not a democracy.
Some of us love Christ and Christianity so much that we did convert. We became Catholic Christians.
This has WHAT to do with Anne Rice?
I imagine the Catholic martyrs of Mexico and France are amused at the idea that they were fighting for Socialism, while the Socialists in Sweden are surprised to learn they are Catholics.
Well, I bet Rice agrees that the discipline of celibacy is worthless and unbiblical. So those on this thread who are against it have the weight of flaming liberal Rice’s opinion going for them...
Freegards
I hadn’t thought of that.
It’s so silly and sad.
Gnosticism, however, was not ‘a” doctrine. it is an umbrella term that covers Jewish, Christian, and pagan forms of mysticism during a period of several hundred years. It might even be used to cover Mormonism or, get this, some Baptist/Pentacostals ideas. Gnostic distain for the flesh led paradoxically to hedonistic practices. If the flesh is worthless, then the soul remains unstained by immorality. Paul had to warn his followers that to be outside the Law did not mean they were free of its constraints, only that the Law does not save.
IAC,
Western monasticism aimed to avoid the excesses of asceticism by anchoring a person in a community, by placing him under obedience.
If you read St. Benedict’s Rule you might recognize that it establishes
very practical standards. The desert Fathers sought to escape society. The Benedictines lived separate from society but never totally apart from it. It was the monks who evangelized Europe in effect by colonizing it. It was the monks who performed similar roles in the Eastern Church. The married clergy, like the English clergy, lived very settled lives, serving mainly the local parish. It is noteworthy that after then confiscation of the monasteries, their lands were given to the rich more often than to the Church. Consequently social services—hospitals and schools—were reduced in number until later when a system of private giving—encouraged by the Puritans—began to create new institutions. Schools, hospitals, orphanages are a legacy of the church.
Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.
Why should I? I am already a Christian, thank you! How dare you insinuate that I’m not? Maybe you should review the commandment-”Thou shalt not bear false witness against your neighbor”.
Then again, it’s entirely possible you are trying to mess with my head. In that case, maybe it’s better for me to take your post with a huge grain of salt. Although I know there are a number of Catholics who are Socialists, many more are not, and have never been. I believe that there are a number of Protestants who are Socialists, but I would never, ever say most of them are, as you are here!
It would be strange to assume that most Catholics are Socialists, when there have been Catholics around since Our Lord’s time. Socialism as we know it now, was not around until almost 200 years ago! Another thing, a good many Catholic people in this world fled from countries that were ruled/lead by Socialists of some stripe. (Marxist, Nazis, Fascist, whatever..)
They were trying to escape persecution in these countries. Why then, would they want to live here under a Socialist? Well? Most of them wouldn’t; some did, and I’ll never understand why.. However, it’s wrong to paint a whole group of people with a tar brush, just because of political stances of some of them!
There’s no evidence Peter had a wife. Read the bible again.
Straw man! He’s talking about the relationship of the Bishop with his flock. Sir, celebacy is a discipline not dogma. And another thing, you’re no expert in Catholicism so don’t pretend to be.
The discipline of celibacy of the latin Church is one of the few areas were some conservative NonCatholic Christians and liberal Catholics agree. Conservative Catholics invariably think the discipline has value; liberal Catholics invariably think it hasn’t, at least that I’ve observed.
Keep in mind most nonCatholic Christians don’t realize that there are many married priests, even some amonst the latin rite of the Catholic Church, to say nothing of the differing disciplines of the other Catholic rites and the various Orthodox Churches concerning the matter. I reckon in most cases they would be more familiar with Orthodox discipline involving married priests than the Eastern Catholic rites, which would be true even for most American Catholics. Even then they seldom are aware that those Churches that allow their priests to be married only only do so if the men are married before they are ordained, as was Peter. Of course you know all this; I was just letting others who perhaps aren’t aware know.
Freegards
Did she join the Church just so she could be an ex-Catholic?
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