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To: one Lord one faith one baptism; smvoice
>>Paul, under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, wrote Romans 9:6-8.<<

Oh good grief. I’m assuming you are referring to the text in bold in verse 8.

Romans 9:7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called. 8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.

You take that passage and try to build your presuppositions into that passage. How about let’s look at the rest of that passage to see what he meant by that statement?

Romans 9:13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.

You see that Jacob was a “child of God” but Esau although a “child of flesh” was not considered a “child of God”. It was the “children of promise” aka offspring of Jacob that were counted for seed even though Esau was also “seed” but God rejected that seed and didn’t call them “children of promise”. Trying in inject the church into that passage is complete error.

>> you see there is reason the Church taught who the true Israel of God is for 2,000 years<<

Don’t even go into “the Church” nonsense with me. The CC is so far off from true scripture it doesn’t deserve discussion.

50 posted on 10/15/2011 5:56:58 PM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: CynicalBear

The Church is a great offense to the devil and his followers since Jesus promised the gates of hell would not prevail against it and look at that, 2,000 years later and the words of Jesus have been proved true.
you are impressed Damascus is still a city?
i am impressed that the Holy Spirit has protected the Body of Christ, the Church for 2,000 years.
so keep attacking it, you join the Gnostics, Arians, Muslims, athiests, etc, etc. the gates of hell will not prevail against it, the Master promised.


53 posted on 10/15/2011 6:03:55 PM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: CynicalBear
Don’t even go into “the Church” nonsense with me. The CC is so far off from true scripture it doesn’t deserve discussion.

Oh, now there's a statement filled with reason and logic /s /I

151 posted on 10/16/2011 6:56:04 PM PDT by Judith Anne ( Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death.)
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