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To: CynicalBear

perfect example - 70 weeks = 490 days. if this passage is to be taken literally, we should be calculating a 490 day period.
do you believe this passage is talking about 490 days or is the 70 weeks a type or shadow of a different time period?


73 posted on 10/15/2011 7:11:11 PM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism
perfect example - 70 weeks = 490 days. if this passage is to be taken literally, we should be calculating a 490 day period. do you believe this passage is talking about 490 days or is the 70 weeks a type or shadow of a different time period?

OK, looks like I will have to read over this thread. Hopefully it won't have ballooned to 300 acrimonious posts by the time I get to it.

In the explanation I tend to follow, Daniel's seventy sevens begins at the end of a (round) 70 years of exile, and represents (with some corroboration from intertestamental Jewish texts, though I'd have to dig through my references for it. I remember seeing it noted in Beale, The Temple and the Church's Mission) ten jubilees. An ideal time, ending in the coming of Messiah and the consummation of all things.

The dispys are, as usual, wildly wrong on account of bad starting assumptions.

78 posted on 10/15/2011 7:30:55 PM PDT by Lee N. Field (Come, behold the works of the LORD, how he has brought desolations on the earth.)
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism; smvoice
>>talking about 490 days or is the 70 weeks a type or shadow of a different time period?<<

I didn’t think I would get a straight answer. The 70 weeks represent 490 years of which there are 7 yet unfulfilled. See how easy that was to answer if you a person knows scripture?

79 posted on 10/15/2011 7:35:03 PM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism
perfect example - 70 weeks = 490 days. if this passage is to be taken literally, we should be calculating a 490 day period. do you believe this passage is talking about 490 days or is the 70 weeks a type or shadow of a different time period?

Its actually more powerful than that. The context of the seventy weeks is where Daniel is pleading with God to be Merciful and not punish wicked and rebellious captive Israel by extending the seventy year captivity. Daniel was genuinely concerned that the Jews learned absolutely nothing while held hostage to Babylon. The whole book of Esther shows how close they all were to being slaughtered. Nonetheless, Daniel made petition to the Almighty because he had faith that God would be true to His Sovereign Will and Promise for the captivity to be no longer than seventy years.

It is in that context where the seventy years is perfectly fulfilled so that those who would live in the seventy weeks would know that when the LORD says seventy times, then it isn't sixty-nine times plus this "gap" of thousands of years before "restarting" the weeks clock to count the last and seventieth.

Futurists make a complete and total mockery of the "type" of seventy years captivity, and the Faithfulness of our LORD when they blatantly ignore the fulfillment of the relatively near/short prophecy to guarantee the longer.

IOW, if the type of seventy years captivity were to be reproduced according to how the Futurists handle the seventy weeks, then Daniel and all of the Jews would do sixty-nine years, then the year clock would "stop" for thousands of years and then "restart" to finish the last year before they could return to their homeland and rebuild the Temple.

Futurists hate OT types - it ruins their camp fire story.

118 posted on 10/15/2011 10:12:07 PM PDT by The Theophilus (Obama's Key to win 2012: Ban Haloperidol)
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