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To: Shadowstrike

“What is there in a church service for men to do or care about? / Uh, the obvious answer would be the Lord. Just guessing”

I hate to break it to you, but the Lord is at work in a Christian’s life 24/7. Sitting passively listening to someone urge you to be more like a woman is NOT a part of serving God.

“Maybe you wife is nagging you, because you would rather go jogging, ride a horse, shoot a gun, or just enjoy doing nothing. Was this the reason you got married? To be alone? Or was it just for safe, free sex?”

Are you an idiot? I think 24 years of marriage indicates I’ve been in it for something other than “safe, free sex?”

You apparently have a very odd idea of marriage, and how people spend their day. I spend a lot of time with my family. But no, I do not want their companionship 24 hours every day. Only a very weird person would crave that.

Nor do I go to church to be with my family. There is, after all, almost no interaction with my family at church.

Again, church is largely a passive event. You sit, you join in group singing, and you listen to someone talking at you.

If that is what you consider quality time with your family, perhaps you need to rethink your family life. If you have one. You write like someone who does not.

“Yes, women do talk to each other, and about a multitude of subjects, and maybe it’s that way because their husbands, seem to have to same idea as you do.”

You have a real problem with men.

Here is a news flash - women like talking FAR more than men do. But I just drove my wife home from work, and we just spent 30 minutes talking to each other. Of course, in church, we do not talk to each other. We are either passively listening, or she is seeking out women to gab with.

“I’ve seen grown men cry over the Superbowl, but you have a problem with caring in a church? I’m really feeling sorry for Mrs. Rogers now.”

Don’t waste your pity. Frankly, you need to meet some men and learn something about them.

No, I don’t go to church to cry. I don’t cry in public. And no, I don’t watch the Superbowl, either. Maybe that is because we don’t have our TV hooked up. Maybe that is also why we have time to talk to each other.

But church? You want men to go to church and get teary eyed over “sweet baby Jesus”?

Well, here is a hint: Jesus doesn’t want it. Jesus isn’t some pansy. You might try reading the Gospels, and meeting a Jesus who is absent from many church services.

You are a great example of why men avoid church like the plague. It is a feminizing, near homosexual passive experience, meant to turn men into women. Many preachers preach sermons full of horse poop, because they have never lived. And the service is designed to take away initiative, punish real thought, and numb men into pathetic dykes with balls instead of being the men God calls to action.


108 posted on 10/24/2011 9:10:27 PM PDT by Mr Rogers ("they found themselves made strangers in their own country")
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To: Mr Rogers; Shadowstrike
"Many preachers preach sermons full of horse poop, because they have never lived. And the service is designed to take away initiative, punish real thought, and numb men into pathetic dykes with balls instead of being the men God calls to action."

I hate to say it but I do agree with some of what you're saying here.I haven't been to any church for a long time and I wonder wether thinking the taking of initiative,the punishing of real thought or just the plain numbing effect is something I use as a reason for holding at arm's length what being a man of action might entail.Maybe up-ending tables?

109 posted on 10/24/2011 9:47:55 PM PDT by mitch5501 (My guitar wants to kill your momma!)
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To: Mr Rogers

To answer your question.
Yes, I do have a family, No, I don’t have a problem with men. Not real ones at least.

And Church is for Fellowship in the Lord, learning about the Lord, talking (that thing you seem to despise so much) to the Lord.

But, you do really seem to have a problem with women...

News flash, God made woman and He considered it good.

Maybe the Church would be changed, IF you, as the ball busting man you want us to believe you are, were to actually go to Church, and Speak (there’s that word again) with your Pastor about having a active role in the worship service.

And no, I’m neither an idiot , nor am I weird. My family is interested in each others lives. It sounds to me, that you simply wish to be Lord and Master of yours, looking down your nose at the “woman” in your life, and call Jesus (the ways He’s being taught at most Churches now) a WUSS!

As the Head of the House (or do you prefer Master?) of your house, it is your DUTY as a Husband, and Father (I’m assuming that you are), TO go to Church, and LEAD by example. All I see/hear you doing is tearing down, instead of helping build up.

Don’t like the way things are? CHANGE them.

A real man would.


111 posted on 10/24/2011 10:31:14 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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