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The Budist is a Christian. Y

Posted on 11/07/2011 12:51:06 AM PST by Love Wisdom Truth

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1 posted on 11/07/2011 12:51:07 AM PST by Love Wisdom Truth
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To: Love Wisdom Truth

Welcome to FR.


2 posted on 11/07/2011 12:54:56 AM PST by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: Love Wisdom Truth
"The Budist [sic] is a Christian."

Does your mom know you're still up?!

3 posted on 11/07/2011 12:59:13 AM PST by Semper Mark (Vlad Tepes was a piker.)
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To: Love Wisdom Truth
Spelling aside - there are a great number of similarities in Buddhism and Christianity
However, one should also factor in that there are a number of subsets of Buddhism that make the similarities less and less.
One might say that this is also a factor in Christianity - there are such a number of different Christian groups that have varying beliefs.

However the base belief in Christianity is in salvation through accepting the Lord Jesus Christ as ones personal Savior and following the principles he taught.

Buddhism does not promote such an exclusive path. It requires adherence and acceptance of:
The four noble truths
The Noble Eightfold Path
The Five Precepts
The Dharma Seals

There is a 'rebirth' of sorts...but its quite different that the Christian 'rebirth in Christ' thing.

Obviously, its not a question that can be answered in a witty reply with any accuracy.
4 posted on 11/07/2011 1:03:52 AM PST by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum)
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To: Tainan
There may be some simularities in how a Christian and a Bhuddist lives and acts nut there is no simularity in Bhuddism and Christianity.
5 posted on 11/07/2011 1:10:06 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Love Wisdom Truth

What is a budist and who is buda? And if you couldn’t spell it, why would you choose to put up a vanity about it?


6 posted on 11/07/2011 1:25:12 AM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: Love Wisdom Truth; Tainan; knarf
There are buddhists on freerepublic but they stay away from the Religion Forum

you are also wrong to state that Buddhists are Christian. buddhism, especially Hinayana/Theravada buddhism is not a religion but a philosophy and inherently athiestic

prince Gautama arose out of Vedic times and rejected the cycle of birth and rebirth. He adopted the ideas of Mahavira with the aim of folks reaching adinatha status but softened it from jainism

Both jaina and buddha philosophies are essentially derived from Vedic thought based on the never-ending cycles. This is quite different from Judeao-Christian linear progression of time

Also, Vedic hinduism was polytheistic, and jaina is strongly anti-creator deity. Buddhism hedges its bets but is also to a large extent like jainism stating that there is no creator deity.

This of course is completely opposite to the Judeo-Christian monotheistic tradition

Christianity also, whichever denomination, states that one cannot "save" oneself while Buddhism essentially says that

In Christianity you can be a good guy, a Gandhi, but if you don't accept Jesus Christ as God, no go (to the point of Gandhi, we don't know about his convictions, so for him personaly I will not comment). For Buddhism on the other hand, you focus on your meditations, karma and over several lifetimes (as we see in Gautama's previous births and rebirths), you attain Nirvana.

So, the very fundamentals are different as the originating sources (Hinduism v/s Judaism) differ.

Also do note that in Buddhism being ahimsa is not for the sake of love of God as in Christianity but for the "selfish" reason of it adding to your karma.

7 posted on 11/07/2011 1:25:58 AM PST by Cronos
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To: knarf
There may be some simularities in how a Christian and a Bhuddist lives and acts nut there is no simularity in Bhuddism and Christianity.

In a bit of a hurry right now - have to dash out in the rain to get our Son from school.
But there are quite a few similarities in the two. Off the top of my head:
Benevolence toward others
Charitable works
Sacrifice of the self
Adherence to ritual
Organization to benefit the propagation of the church/temple

Now, I think I can guess your response - Yes, these are acts. But I would propose that "By their acts they will be known" as a response to your possible comment.
es, there is a great difference in the basic tenets of Christianity and Buddhism; but there is also a great deal of similarity.

FWIW, I consider myself a Christian...a poor one...but I profess and do testify to my Christian beliefs.

8 posted on 11/07/2011 1:29:29 AM PST by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum)
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To: knarf

“There may be some simularities in how a Christian and a Bhuddist lives and acts nut there is no simularity in Bhuddism and Christianity.”

This.


9 posted on 11/07/2011 1:30:03 AM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: Love Wisdom Truth
Love Wisdom & Truth, do you?

We'll see.

To be wrong about creation is to be wrong about everything. --Robert Bolton, The One and the Many

"... meaning, purpose, and unity (or wholeness) are all functions of one another. To see the whole is to understand the meaning, and vice versa. For example, you can't understand the purpose of the heart if you don't situate it in the context of the body it serves. Likewise, words take on entirely different shades of meaning depending on the sentence in which they are situated.

Again, one of the important points Bolton raises is that nondualism is nihilsim, which is to say, meaningless. Or, you could say that the meaning of existence is its ultimate meaninglessness.

He points out the irony that the principle of karma -- of moral cause and effect -- is central to Buddhism.

And yet, when it comes to the totality -- the whole -- "they deny that there is any cause for the world as such.

Their passion for causality suddenly evaporates just where causality approaches its most significant consequence."

(And please bear in mind that Bolton is not being remotely disrespectful, only trying to clearly describe the differences, and their consequences, between atheistic nondualism and theistic dualism.) ....."

HERE

10 posted on 11/07/2011 1:36:05 AM PST by Matchett-PI ("A Republican Larry Flynt should wave around $50,000 for proof of sexual harassment at Politico" -RL)
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To: Love Wisdom Truth

Y?

Or just sometimes Y?


11 posted on 11/07/2011 1:36:55 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Tainan
“.... However the base belief in Christianity is in salvation through accepting the Lord Jesus Christ as ones personal Savior and following the principles he taught..... “

First: Who is Jesus? Jesus Christ according to Beinsa Douno is the manifestation of God's love.
Now, one can see the “human” element “... accepting the Lord Jesus Christ as ones personal Savior... “ in understanding Christ's teaching. Jesus often used symbolic language, and when He said “I am the way...” He meant that LOVE, the Divine Love is the way to Heaven.

A lot of the doctrines that many churches have today do not come from Christ. Christ never preached them.

If Jesus came today, he would say: “These churches don't preach what I preached.” What I preached is Love, brotherhood and sisterhood.

Thank you for pointing out my spelling mistake “Buddhist”.
I am willing and am trying to perfect my English.

Divine Blessings,
DS

12 posted on 11/07/2011 1:37:52 AM PST by Love Wisdom Truth
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To: Love Wisdom Truth

Yes, but only if a cat is a dog (both have 4 legs and a tail).


13 posted on 11/07/2011 1:42:10 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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To: Love Wisdom Truth
"....It is not only a certain type of Buddhist who is susceptible to this kind of moral foolishness. Obviously it can also afflict Christians who take this or that statement by Jesus out of context in order to support the deeply immoral idea of pacifism. In reality, there is no right superior to truth. Therefore, if your morality is not grounded in truth, it will cease to be moral despite your good intentions.

This, of course, is precisely what is wrong with all forms of leftist “do-gooderism,” and why their ideas do not work in practice. To be perfectly accurate, like the Dalai Lama’s ideas, they will work, but only in paradise -- as will Mao’s ideas. But if you willfully confuse the herebelow with paradise, a lot of people are going to be hurt and killed. And you won’t get paradise anyway. ...."

HERE

14 posted on 11/07/2011 1:46:40 AM PST by Matchett-PI ("A Republican Larry Flynt should wave around $50,000 for proof of sexual harassment at Politico" -RL)
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To: Tainan; Love Wisdom Truth
Buddhism does not promote such an exclusive path. It requires adherence and acceptance of:

The four noble truths
The Noble Eightfold Path
The Five Precepts
The Dharma Seals

If it "requires adherence and acceptance of" something, then there is exclusivity.

There is a 'rebirth' of sorts...but its quite different that the Christian 'rebirth in Christ' thing.

There is the propagation, not of a person, personality, or soul, but of a set of tendencies to exist. There is the release from suffering, through an egoless, non-grasping attitude of giving up, brought about by extinction without remainder of that set of tendencies to exist. Such can be practiced so that if one finds oneself in a life-threatening situation, say, falling to one's death, one can relinquish one's attempt to hold on to life and, so, at the moment of death, not propagate that grasping desire that characterizes life, which is suffering caused through desire, and become extinct without remainder.

Yeah, that's significantly different from that "'rebirth in Christ' thing" that posits a world peopled by unique individuals whose nature transcends the "material world" and who, primarily because of their own choices, are in such deep crap that they need to be rescued by the very one they're in rebellion against and given a new heart and new life by being made a part of a new creation that has already started within the old and will one day completely replace it, within which they will live forever as those unique individuals, liberated from sin and suffering and evil desires.

Eternal life for the unique person that you are or extinction without remainder of a set of tendencies to exist? Which one of those is good news?
15 posted on 11/07/2011 1:49:43 AM PST by aruanan
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To: Love Wisdom Truth
"...The Buddha thought he had hit upon the solution by suggesting that attachment to our desires was the central problem of human existence. Desires come and go, but if we just stop identifying with them, then we can be liberated from them. While I studied a fair amount of Buddhism in my earlier years, I ultimately rejected it as fundamentally inadequate and incompatible with our own wisdom traditions in the West.

Yes, the West has problems, but Buddhist nonattachment is not the answer. Rather, the answer lay in a recovery of our own spiritual roots, which easily transcend and include the insights of Buddhism. Or, perhaps we can say that there are certain insights of Buddhism that can help illuminate certain ideas that are present but underemphasized in our own tradition. But Christianity is obviously fundamentally complete and needs no other revelation to complete it. It is missing nothing. ...."

HERE

16 posted on 11/07/2011 1:55:53 AM PST by Matchett-PI ("A Republican Larry Flynt should wave around $50,000 for proof of sexual harassment at Politico" -RL)
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To: Larry Lucido
And sometimes "Y not?"
17 posted on 11/07/2011 2:02:37 AM PST by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: Love Wisdom Truth

Good then take up the cross and follow Jesus.


18 posted on 11/07/2011 2:10:35 AM PST by bmwcyle (Obama is a Communist, a Muslim, and an illegal alien)
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To: Love Wisdom Truth
First: I'd like to apologize to you for my post #3 on this thread.

Your statement: "The Budist is a Christian." Just rubbed me the wrong way.

"First: Who is Jesus?

He is God. The only begotten Son of the Father.

"Jesus often used symbolic language, and when He said “I am the way...” He meant that LOVE, the Divine Love is the way to Heaven."

No, Christ's words weren't symbolic. Jesus meant, quite literally, that HE is WAY the TRUTH and the LIFE. Jesus died a sacrificial death for us on the cross. There is no other way to heaven but to accept His gift of grace.

19 posted on 11/07/2011 2:13:57 AM PST by Semper Mark (Vlad Tepes was a piker.)
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