He did lie, or at least didn’t tell the whole truth, which is the same as lying outright. Eating the fruit didn’t kill them out right as God implied. A lie is a lie, regardless of who tells it.
Convoluted statement. A lie is not about revealing a whole truth. The whole scene in the Garden was about trusting God’s Word. He absolutely pointed out any thing in the garden but one. Adam disobeyed. He did not trust God’s word.
Are you arguing from a Judeo Christian frame of reference when you imply that God violated his own code or are you arguing from some other moral frame of reference?
Adam and Eve died spiritually and fell out of fellowship with God, and eventually they died physically as well. Genesis gives us “just the bare facts, mam’m” about what God said and what Eve did. We can glean some facts indirectly, in that Adam and Eve seemed to have a concept of death but didn’t know precisely what that experience was. God is also teaching us that “dying” is something a bit more complex then just a simple cessation of all metabolic processes. The term in Genesis used for their sin literally means “going wide of the mark”, an archery term. Adam and Eve were thrust out of the Garden for their sin, after animals were killed to provide clothing to cover their nakedness...the first blood sacrifice. They were thrust into a world where the ground was cursed and would not be easyeasily worked to grow their food....nature itself was suddenly turned against man. They were cast into a spiritual world made chaotic by their rebellion against God with hell as their final destination. Yeah, they “died” in the fullest sense in the way God sees death, not just the physical aspect.
As for why they did not immediately physically “die”, has to do with the grace and long suffering of God who grants us all enough time to come to our moral senses, repent of our sin and pride, so that fellowship can be restored. Even if physical death was to be inevitable, a man’s soul and spirit, the essence of all that he is could be preserved with God. For as Paul says,”The outer man perishes but the inner man is renewed day by day!”
There was not lie involved except the result of your desire to find one. The Scriptures define themselves, and the same records that Adam lived 930 years, but that spiritual death occurs as a result of sin, “Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:” (Romans 5:12)
You can also understand “day” as a period, which it is sometimes denotes, as well as a simile, “as a thousand years.”
Nor does is matter whether that Adam understood death to be physical, God said not to do it and it was an act of mercy that they did not also die physically.
But if one is determined to find fault with Scriptures in order to justify their unbelief and rejection of an ultimate creator and judge, or authority in general, then no amount of objective analysis will suffice them.
Day/Yom controversy, typically used in an attempt to rationalize greatly expanded timeframes in order to incorporate evolution into Biblical Creation.
Well, I'm going to turn it around on you. A day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years a day, to God. How old was Adam when he died? It's in there. Look it up. Did he die in that yom?
He did. He wouldn't have died at all, had he obeyed.