Skip to comments.Now The Serpent Was More Subtil...Genesis 3
Posted on 11/19/2011 7:23:19 PM PST by pastorbillrandles
Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die. And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:(Genesis 3:1-4)
The gospel begins in a God-given garden of delight, with a very simple cast of characters, Adam, Eve, the serpent, and God. The man and woman were given but one negative commandment by God, a prohibition. They were commanded not to eat of one tree, the tree of the knowledge of good and of evil. A vast array of other beautiful, fruit bearing trees were theirs to enjoy at will.
We can only know what went wrong with the world, and with the human race, by Divine revelation. God would have to show us what went wrong with the world, and He has. The man and the woman were undermined by the subtlety of the Serpent, they were seduced into repudiating God and siding with the serpent in his primeval rebellion against God.
I believe that an understanding of Genesis three is essential to a proper perspective on all of the rest of the gospel. It is important to see that the same thing that happened in Genesis three is played out on a larger, worldwide scale in the last days leading up to the final judgment of the world and the consummation of the purposes of God. Genesis three is both history and eschatology.
Now the Serpent was subtil but can a snake be subtil? Isnt subtlety a feature of intelligence? Subtlety is an attribute that can only be given to a responsible, moral being, therefore the scripture itself is being subtle, for it is implying that something more than a mere reptile is involved in this story.The serpent is the vehicle for another malevolent personality.
We are told without explanation, that the snake spoke to the woman. We remember that to the man, Adam, had been given the task of naming all of the animals. The act of naming the animals carries with it the idea that the one who names, has dominion over the ones named. This is in accord with the original commission given to the man, to rule over creation.
But something is amiss, for in the fact that the serpent spoke to the woman, there is rebellion against the divine order. It is the mans wife that the serpent addresses, not the man standing there, the one who named the serpent. Obviously there is something very much out-of-order here.
The method of seduction is enlightening. The serpent probes the understanding of the woman, not by proposition but by loaded question;
,I>Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
What a masterpiece of insinuation! He is not saying that God did say that, nor is he denying God said that, he is merely asking a question.
Yet the question itself is slanted- it could be paraphrased, ,b>Did God really deny you the freedom to eat of every tree of the garden? The serpent insinuated that Gods sole limit upon the couple was altogether unreasonable, not by stating so, but just by asking the loaded question.
The womans response offered the serpent clues to the couples inner state, openings to exploit;
And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.
Her answer betrayed a slight hint of dissatisfaction. First, she maximised the prohibition of God, (though not as greatly as the serpent ), by saying that not only were they not to eat of the tree, they werent even supposed to touch it! Thus she portrayed her benevolent, Creator in a harsh light, as though he were being unreasonable.
Secondly she minimized the sanction, by saying that God said , lest ye die, when originally God had said, You shall surely die! As if it may or may not be true that those who transgress the word of God are liable to the revealed punishments. Maybe not?
Now the Serpent perceived that the couple, (for Adam had been standing there also ),were ready to hear Gods Word openly denied;
And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die
God had already said that the day you eat of the tree of knowledge , literally, In dying you shall die, but the serpents new word was a direct contradiction of Gods word.
The subtlety of the Serpent is first to make an indirect appeal, not to the man whom God ordained to name and rule, but to the woman who was to be his helpmeet. It is a distortion of the Divine order. The confusion of the God assigned gender roles is a sign of satanic influence.
Secondly the Serpent seeks to call into question the revealed word of God. He ever hisses, Hath God really said ? In the modern age, the faith of millions has been ravaged through the virulent attacks on the veracity of scripture by groups such as the higher critics, and the so-called Jesus seminar.
Liberal theology has made a corpse of the mainstream protestant churches and is now marshalling its troops for an all out infiltration and attack on the evangelical church.
Through his servants, apostate ministers, the serpent currently suggests that the God of the Bible is harsh, fundamentalist, demanding and unreasonable. Through the new preachers, the serpent offers a new and improved god of love and mercy. In fact more than mercy, the new God presented by liberal theology and the emergent stream of the church is indulgent, tolerant of every kind of lifestyle, for he is a God of unconditional love.
The serpent also is adamant that no one is surely going to die, for the new God is too tender to damn anyone to hell. A fiery Hell as a place of punishment for the reprobate, is now seen as a barbaric notion held on to by fundamentalists, a holdover from the dark ages. Religion has evolved such a sadistic concept of God.
Finally, when the serpent percieves that we are ready to recieve it, he offers an alternative Word in the place of the Word of God. These days there are many words from God and many gospels. We must be very near the final judgment.
The modern evangelical church has been undergoing this seduction for at least the past fifty years. Steadily the Bible colleges and seminaries have made on accommodation after another to the Spirit of the Age, in its constant question, Hath God really said ? Thousands of sons and daughters of Bible believing christians have been sent to study theology only to lose all faith in God as a result of the experience!
We are finally to the point where it is becoming easier and easier for ministers, theologians, christian musicians and television personalities to openly deny the Word of God. Jesus teaching on Creation, marriage, divorce, Heaven, Hell, Judgment, homosexuality, morality, love , the exclusivity of the gospel, all are being attacked and in many cases denied.
If judgment begins in the house of God, what shall become of the ungodly and the sinner?
more to come
Note to all, I spelled Subtil in the title the way it was spelled in the KJV I quoted,i know,I know, it is spelled Subtle in modern usage.
I love you all, but SERIOUSLY!:
THIS MAN has something new to teach y’all!
God’s big mistake was in lying to Adam and Eve, he shouldn’t have told them they were going to die, he should have told them the absolute truth about the tree, thereby taking away the Devil’s most compelling argument: That God lied.
Are you leveling a criticism? What specifically do you object to...without pimping some book?
Men have been dying since the garden....God did not lie!
No, she embellished what God said, although Adam was probably the guilty one since it was he that got the instruction directly from God - not Eve. Anyway, that embellishment was all the room that satan needed.
He did lie, or at least didn’t tell the whole truth, which is the same as lying outright. Eating the fruit didn’t kill them out right as God implied. A lie is a lie, regardless of who tells it.
When Eve decided to rely on her own interpretation of the Word without any regard for how Adam understood the Word she was already disobeying God by usurping the authority God had given to Adam. Once she refused to acknowledge the authority of Adam. She had become a usurper and would inevitably seek to usurp the authority of God as well.
The real subtlety of the Serpent wasn't how he presented temptation. It was in speaking directly to Eve while ignoring Adam and thereby recognizing her usurpation of authority as legitimate. Once Eve had been flattered by being recognized as the highest authority on His Word, simply suggesting to Eve that eating from the tree would grant her authority equal to God was all it took. She had already decided there was no reason to stop with just ignoring the authority God had placed over her when she could just as easily ignore the authority of God as well.
Convoluted statement. A lie is not about revealing a whole truth. The whole scene in the Garden was about trusting God’s Word. He absolutely pointed out any thing in the garden but one. Adam disobeyed. He did not trust God’s word.
Your view is refreshing and interesting .
You are spinning things in order to satisfy your need to not have God be a liar. The truth is, if you withhold the truth, you have, in fact, told a lie. The MSM withholds news stories they don’t want you to hear about daily, these are lies for they lead you to believe something that is not true. God led Adam and Eve to believe they would die immediately if they ate the forbidden fruit, this was a lie. Either except that or don’t, but either way I am tired of explaining it to you. Please don’t answer this comment.
Adam did indeed die, that very day, so did Eve, for death is not merely physical, death is a severance from the Creator, which results in a separation from one’s environment, friends, family, and yes eventually the separation of body and soul, ie physical death. God didn’t lie.
Are you arguing from a Judeo Christian frame of reference when you imply that God violated his own code or are you arguing from some other moral frame of reference?
Adam and Eve died spiritually and fell out of fellowship with God, and eventually they died physically as well. Genesis gives us “just the bare facts, mam’m” about what God said and what Eve did. We can glean some facts indirectly, in that Adam and Eve seemed to have a concept of death but didn’t know precisely what that experience was. God is also teaching us that “dying” is something a bit more complex then just a simple cessation of all metabolic processes. The term in Genesis used for their sin literally means “going wide of the mark”, an archery term. Adam and Eve were thrust out of the Garden for their sin, after animals were killed to provide clothing to cover their nakedness...the first blood sacrifice. They were thrust into a world where the ground was cursed and would not be easyeasily worked to grow their food....nature itself was suddenly turned against man. They were cast into a spiritual world made chaotic by their rebellion against God with hell as their final destination. Yeah, they “died” in the fullest sense in the way God sees death, not just the physical aspect.
As for why they did not immediately physically “die”, has to do with the grace and long suffering of God who grants us all enough time to come to our moral senses, repent of our sin and pride, so that fellowship can be restored. Even if physical death was to be inevitable, a man’s soul and spirit, the essence of all that he is could be preserved with God. For as Paul says,”The outer man perishes but the inner man is renewed day by day!”
you’re vulgar... didn’t take much to ‘get ye acursing!’
Truth can be vulgar, like the insistence of a surgeon’s blade cutting into necrotic flesh...now answer the question what do you find so wrong with pastor randall’s posting?
It’s seems “ye were accusing” Randalls. Why the criticism?
I believe this to be allegorical, like the creation of the universe and the world. But quite real in that God created the world, and the essence of sin as the human mind began to abstract information from its environment.
Even allegory attempts to explain a hyper reality which is as “true” as we know truth to be. That truth being that all men”hath sinned and fell short of the Glory Of God!”
An event happened in the history of man that caused us to lose our birthright with God; perhaps as an event it could be only explained as allegory but the event happened, Satan attempted to intervene with God’s order and men were corrupted in the process.
Yet God planned a corrective and at the right time in history, God thru his Son entered our material universe...indeed Christ is God’s very thumprint pressed into matter.
There was not lie involved except the result of your desire to find one. The Scriptures define themselves, and the same records that Adam lived 930 years, but that spiritual death occurs as a result of sin, “Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:” (Romans 5:12)
You can also understand “day” as a period, which it is sometimes denotes, as well as a simile, “as a thousand years.”
Nor does is matter whether that Adam understood death to be physical, God said not to do it and it was an act of mercy that they did not also die physically.
But if one is determined to find fault with Scriptures in order to justify their unbelief and rejection of an ultimate creator and judge, or authority in general, then no amount of objective analysis will suffice them.
Yes! Nice explaining. That Freeper does not want me to reply to him. So I will point out His own logic to you. I just looked up his Freeper page. He is very vague on it. Do I accuse him of lying because he does not tell the whole story? No. He did not lie. But according to his logic he is a liar which I do not agree. Convoluted. IMHO.
Day/Yom controversy, typically used in an attempt to rationalize greatly expanded timeframes in order to incorporate evolution into Biblical Creation.
Well, I'm going to turn it around on you. A day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years a day, to God. How old was Adam when he died? It's in there. Look it up. Did he die in that yom?
He did. He wouldn't have died at all, had he obeyed.
I think the ¨serpent¨ was an image of God Himself. And with the monstrosity that the human mind is capable of, who needs Satan?
Admittedly I´m not Christian. But I don´t think the US could have been founded without Christianity.
God´s grace to You and Yours....
Well, as applicable today, what happened was the devil, who seems to have a victim entitlement mentality, seeing it as unfair that God has all the “wealth” power and position which the unworthy devil selfishly lusted for, sought to instill that “root of bitterness by which many may be defiled” (Heb. 12:15) in Eve, seeing she was the “oppressed class.”
The message was just that, inferring that she was being treated unfairly by God, the judicial and moral authority who was selfishly controlling the wealth in keeping Eve via an oppressive law from possessing the unique knowledge of good and evil.
And thus, having enlightened Eve to her oppressed status in Paradise, the (democrat) devil, in the original “share the wealth” and food equality act, enticed Eve to take the wealth by an act of revolutionary defiance.
So the mother of all living ate of the fruit, and not wanting to be alone in her guilt, gave Adam to eat, who went along with the rebel, thus incurring the spiritual death penalty and other effect of not striving lawfully.
And rather than this resulting in an “occupy Eden” scenario, the Landowner drove them out with two secret service types, who were not to be messed with, and instead Adam and Eve lost what they had and instead sweated in a “workers paradise,” though the Landowner was yet gracious to them and enabled pardon and reconciliation, and a paradisaical future for them who trusted Him. (You male like the poem here http://peacebyjesus.witnesstoday.org/CREATION2CONSUMATION-POEM.html)
It is obvious how applicable this is to us today, personally and societally. As i know too well myself, the devil works to foster the idea that God is malevolent, intent on our failure, and who does not have our best interest in mind, and you can see his success in the rage of militant atheists, and or he works to make souls see themselves as oppressed victims of those who have things, especially if they did so by hard work and developing their talents etc. The idea is that simply not having what others have makes you a victim, and justifies climbing up some other way (cf. Jn. 10:1) than that which is right, like demanding that those who have what did not achieve by work to divest themselves of what they gained by so doing, or that it be taken from them.
This rebellion then is against the very laws and principles that are necessary and just, not only that of requiring one to show himself responsible and worthy of power and privilege, but which restrains lust. And which even allows just principled dissent and charity and lawful opportunity toward the legitimately oppressed. What the western liberal mind wants is a Garden of Eden without God and the laws which are necessary because of the Fall, and instead basically hopes for a deified government which will supply them all they want with no moral demands, or restraints to pleasure, including clothes. And the OWS protest is much about the failure to achieve that 60’s dream (which results in what was seen in Haight Ashbury), with only drugs coming close to experiencing it, and which hope and change promised, and their anger is against the very capitalistic, earn-your-bread by diligence work and patience system which rewards such, and which is what actually materially supplies what they have.
And the seminaries’ for this movement are the universities its evangelism is via the MSM.
This is not to say there is no place for dissent, but the rebellion of the devil was not based on God being selfish or malevolent, as He needs nothing, (Acts 17:25) and is always giving, and requires worship because it is right and to our benefit to worship what is supremely holy and can never fail, versus that of the finite creation which will fail and can deceive. In contrast, what the devil wanted was a selfish sharing of the wealth which he was not worthy of and which would be misused.
The tactics then that the devil used in the Garden is what is behind the present rebellion as well as that of Communism, and while they are often based upon some legitimate oppression, the real rebellion is against any moral and judicial authority that upholds just laws and accountability, reflective of God’s principles which the devil sought to controvert, and what they replace it with is typically far worse than what they had rebelled against, either in anarchy or the kind of oppression which often results from it.
The dissent of the Founders in America was not based on such a basic animus against authority, but against long standing abuses of power and an overreach which was no long necessary, which they replaced with more just and tempered accountable authority, but which depends upon its people being sufficiently governed from within by God and conscience , so they need not be governed from without by the gun of government. Thanks be to God though we see that being rejected and its results today, and thus need to pray. And preach.
Eve didn’t heed the word of God but listened to another who came to kill/rob/destroy (the word) who said ‘did God really say?’. Eve thought there was more (than His word) and it was the word that was there for her protection. That same deception is used today. Nothing new under the sun.
Beautiful! I love it. It is delicious take on today. Daniel! Thanks!
Seems that when Satan attacks, the first thing he goes for is the veracity of the word of God.
We still see him getting the same mileage out of this technique today as there are millions falling for it hook, line, and sinker, as they add extra Biblical teachings to the Word of God.
Are you for real? They most certainly did die. The spiritual death was immediate.
The physical death takes longer but honestly, the body is not all there is of mankind. People need to get over their obsession with the physical body as being all there is in Christianity.
Let’s approach the events there in Eden from another angle,
What would have been the case had Adam and Eve NOT sinned? Had Eve said, Nope, no way, Serpent! then what would have happened to both Adam and Eve?
Gen 2:24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
For the past five hundred years or so people have done the same thing Eve did when she ignored the fact that she was to be one flesh with Adam. They ignore the fact that they're to be one flesh with the Church and then, like Eve, just interpret everything to suit their own understanding and inclination. So, you're right, nothing new under the sun and those who see them self as equal to God always begin by claiming to be totally independent actors and not one with with the authority God binds them to.
I Don’t really know.
So when the Nephilim came to Earth’s women and violence was “greatly multiplied upon the Earth” via their offspring, was Satan trying to deploy a Clove-Pliven strategy against the efforts of God?
(tee hee...tongue in cheek mode here!)
I think the human race would have progressed in ways beyond which we could have never imagined spiritually, without the tragedies and sorrows we see today.
It’s not an idle question as I think something can be learned from it seeing that Isaiah 55:11 says God accomplishes what He wills or says.
Do think Adam and Eve would have grown old and died at some point?
“God is not a man, that He should lie, nor a son of man, that He should change his mind. Does he speak and then not act? Does he promise and not fulfill?” Numbers 23:19
“Trust in the LORD with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding;” Proverbs 3:5
Biologists have studied the question and I’ve read that the human body is keyed to literally last forever, only that something seems to have been added to our genetics so that with each successive generations of cells defects occur and vitality decreases. They speak of things call telomeres and other genetic structures that appear to shorten life spans of cells with each regenerative cycle; ongoing disease and immune assaults continue the damage. We could biologically live forever, but a clock seems to have been built in that keeps us from doing so. Human genetics have degraded since the fall. Modern medicine can preserve life some extent, better diets may help, but nothing stops what goes on in our genetics.
The Bible also says that “Thru man came death, thru man came also the Resurrection of the dead.” It suggests that our fore-parents’ actions, sin, and loss of direct contact with God created within themselves the destruction wrought by our telomeric”clocks” and the effects of these clocks got worse with ever shortening lifespans until we got down to the “ 3 score and 10 years or 4 score by strength” that was common in King David’s time and still hasn’t changed much....depending on diet, exercise and living conditions.
Agreed, then it would follow, would it not, that the answer to my original question would be that Adam and Eve would never have aged and died nor their offspring?
But God did not curse them until Adam ate the fruit. I wonder what would have happened if he said NO....
Well yeah...but what life on Earth would have looked like without sin is a whole other road of speculation which is a dead end to contemplate. Sin did happen, Christ was the corrective applied for those who would accept him so that restoration to the Father was made possible. As for higher motives and considerations, only God knows.
"Again, she did not heed God's Word and one can learn from that - not heeding HIS WORD alone leads to destruction. "
She first ignored that she was bound to Adam, that was HIS WORD just as much as the command to not eat of the tree. Of course, some people prefer to ignore or discard portions of The Word that disagree with their own understanding and inclinations. Such folks choose to always ignore the entirety of the Word and instead pick and chose what they apply in order to rationalize the conclusion they've already reached on their own. For them, I guess The Word is The Word except when it's not The Word because they find it inconvenient. Usually, though, they try to reinterpret things rather than just ignoring something like God saying that Adam and Eve were one flesh.
"God doesn't bind anyone - those who love and accept HIM He indwells with His Holy Spirit. "
Rom 12:3 For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith.
Rom 12:4 For as we have many members in one body, and all members have not the same office: Rom 12:5 So we, being many, are one body in Christ, and every one members one of another.
Sounds pretty binding to me but then again I've never found the whispers of, " then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil", as alluring as so many others seem to.
Once someone adopts doctrines that agree with the serpent and claim all knowledge and power for themselves, they can easily manipulate The Word to mean whatever they want it to. Anyone who recognizes "The Lego Block Method of Scripture Interpretation", though, is also going to recognize that such folks don't actually care what The Word says, they've decided what it should say and they're going to manipulate Scripture any way they have to in order to say it agrees with their opinion.
Of course, that's only natural, Satan does quote Scripture and can easily provide someone with an appropriate out of context quote as needed. When read in context, though, the Scripture can't be distorted the way it so commonly is by so many people. Now, naturally, each and every one of the tens of thousands of churches and millions of independent actors all claim to have the proper interpretation due to their personal relationship to the Holy Spirit. That's exactly what you'd expect from a bunch of sheep who each and every one claim to be their own shepherd. It's also what Christ avoided by establishing His Church to teach us and to provide shepherds for us.
Before there was any need for the Church which is the one body of the Bride of Christ, there was just Adam and Eve who God commanded to be as one flesh. Those who abide by The Word consider themselves so bound do not enshrine their own thoughts and desires so readily as those who see themselves as independent actors do. Nor are they easily isolated and tempted away from what they know is the correct path because they know to rely on the other parts of the body when they feel weak or tempted and to help those other parts when they are feeling weak or tempted.
For some folks being in any way bound to anything other than their own understanding is just a bit too much like surrender and they prefer to make their own deal then to help convince them self that Christ will accept their deal, proclaim to any who will listen that surrender and a cross are just options, not requirements. For them, nothing is ever going to match their sweet imagination and they won't recognize as Truth what they now call foolishness until it's too late. It's a shame, but it's a consequence of habitually ignoring context in order to make Scripture say whatever they like and liking to be the head that controls the body.
I've read a couple of articles that speculated along those lines but that's all we can really do, speculate. From what I recall, several articles agreed on something along the lines of Satan being banished from the Garden, Adam and Eve being put out of the Garden but with the world outside not being cursed and death not being introduced. I didn't keep track of where those articles were because I didn't think it was anything other than a form of mental, um, self-gratification, I guess you'd call it.
I bet you can try different terms in some of the search engines and find more than a couple such speculations, though, so all I can really say is that if it's something you're really interested in there is at least a little stuff around that follows that line of thought to various conclusions.
The exact word...”restoration”. Thanks!
While it all seemed hopeless to the hapless couple at the time he stated it, God’s promise, that Eve’s “seed” would be at emnity with the serpent and would crush his head even when the serpent was biting the “seed’s” heel, was the promise of such “restoration”. Christ was the “second” Adam and the first of the seed of Eve; then we who are Christ’s children have become a part of Eve’s seed or another word’s, Christ’s great Church. Hell shall not prevail against us!
So let us wash each other’s feet and look, but not judge any bite marks...we’ll all have them!(we can help each other drain the poison out)
OK, so now it's just you and me, not theory right? You want to make it personal.
First, your whole disagreement with me is over whether or not what is clearly written in the Bible means what it says or not. I say God telling Adam and Eve to be as one is a command, you say that I'm ignoring Scripture as the final authority because I see Eve not obeying that command as a sin.
Second, I'm not the one redefining or denying any Scripture, I'm just reading what it says and then saying that if the Scripture says it the Scripture means what it says. God said they were to be as one, God said we are to be as one, but no, you say if I believe The Word, I'm ignoring The Word?
I'd say if anyone needs to learn from Adam and Eve it's you and you could start by getting on your knees and asking Christ to the damn snake you're listening to out of the tree in your back yard and begging him to forgive your for ever having listened to that snake. You're sure not listening to the indwelling Christ as the Holy Spirit, Christ doesn't contradict Himself. You, on the other hand, contradict both yourself and Christ on a regular basis around here.
Have a wonderful day
You didn't find that part in Corinthians...You added to the word of God and you know what he says about that, and it ain't good...
Act 9:31 Then had the churches rest throughout all Judaea and Galilee and Samaria, and were edified; and walking in the fear of the Lord, and in the comfort of the Holy Ghost, were multiplied.
Act 15:41 And he went through Syria and Cilicia, confirming the churches.
Act 16:5 And so were the churches established in the faith, and increased in number daily.
In fact, the CHURCHES were spoken of 37 times in the scriptures...There is not just one church...
Of course, that's only natural, Satan does quote Scripture and can easily provide someone with an appropriate out of context quote as needed. When read in context, though, the Scripture can't be distorted the way it so commonly is by so many people.
Now, naturally, each and every one of the tens of thousands of churches and millions of independent actors all claim to have the proper interpretation due to their personal relationship to the Holy Spirit. That's exactly what you'd expect from a bunch of sheep who each and every one claim to be their own shepherd. It's also what Christ avoided by establishing His Church to teach us and to provide shepherds for us.
God did provide shepherds for us...And he listed their qualifications...
1Ti 3:2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;
1Ti 3:3 Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous;
1Ti 3:4 One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity;
1Ti 3:5 (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?)
Now if you know of someone who belongs to a religion that claims it has shepherds 'from God' and they don't meet all of these qualification, tell them to abandon that religion faster than rats fleeing a sinking ship...Because that's what it is...A sinking ship...