Do Catholics and Muslims Worship the Same God?

Just For Catholics.org Excerpted then copied on gloria.tv ^ | Dr Joseph Mizzi on Just For Catholics.org

[mas cerveza por favor]

The anti-Catholic site justforcatholics.org quotes the non-infallible Nostra Aetate of Vatican II and the non-infallible 1994 Catechism of the Catholic Church (derived from Vatican II) to falsely assert that the Catholic Church officially teaches that Catholics and Muslims worship the same god.

Catholicism and Islam are monotheistic religions, that is, both believe that there is but one God. However, that does not necessarily imply that they worship the same God. Two men may be married to one woman, but that does not mean that they are married to the same woman. So, the question is whether Catholics and Muslims worship the same one God.

The modern Catholic Church has defined her relations to non-Christian religions in a document entitled Nostra Aetate. The section on Islam begins thus:

The Church regards with esteem also the Muslims. They adore the one God, living and subsisting in Himself; merciful and all-powerful, the Creator of heaven and earth, who has spoken to men.

While it does not state explicitly that 'the one God' adored by the Muslims is the true and living God, this seems to be the natural implication. For why would Rome commend Muslims for this belief if their God was considered a false deity? Indeed, unlike their ancestors, many modern Catholics are convinced that they and Muslims worship the same God. [...]

http://www.justforcatholics.org/islam.htm

Pro-Catholic Gloria.TV corrects this falsehood:

Gloria.TV – News Briefs — 09/12/2011 04:34:13:
Attendance at Islamic and Non-Catholic Worship

The abomination, which the Church has had from the very beginning for association of Catholics in the worship of Non Catholics [31], is evident from the words of St. John "If anyone comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do not receive him into the house, or say to him Welcome" - II John 1:10

Suarez (one of the greatest amongst the Jesuits theologians) affirms that the reason the Apostle gives for this prohibition is verified in religious communication especially, because he, who unites himself with those outside the Church in religious worship, communicates in their wicked works. [32]

A Catholic who communicates formally in the worship of Non Catholics sins grievously against the virtue of Religion, as a false exercise of it. [33] For this reason "One is never allowed to cooperate formally in something which is intrinsically wrong objectively." [34]

St. Augustine, the great Champion of Catholic orthodoxy, reproves both actual and simulated communication in non-Catholic worship. In a letter to St. Jerome he states that one who observes the rites of Jews, or Gentiles, not only truly, but even fictitiously, has fallen into the abyss of the devil. [35]

The mind of the Church on this point was enshrined in old Code of Canon Law (1917), which stated that: " It is not permitted at all for the faithful to assist in any active manner at or to have any part in the worship of non-Catholics." [36]

All subsequent moral theology works have simply reiterated the same point. [37]

Pius XI in dealing with this issue that was so vehement in his own day had only the following to say "Certainly such movements as these cannot gain the approval of Catholics. They are founded upon the false opinions of those who say that, since all religions equally unfold and signify- though not in the same way - the native, inborn feeling in us all through which we are borne toward God and humbly recognize His rule, therefore, all religions are more or less good and praiseworthy. The followers of this theory are not only deceived and mistaken, but since they repudiate the true religion by attacking it in its very essence, they move step by step toward naturalism and atheism. Hence it clearly follows that anyone who gives assent to such theories and undertakings utterly abandons divinely revealed religion. " [38]

The Church can never lawfully grant to Catholics permission to participate formally in non-Catholic worship. In dealing those who claim they have been given ecclesiastical permission to participate in the ceremonial rites of non Catholics Fr. Michael Muller in his well known work, "God the Teacher of Man Kind" aptly answers the question by stating "Neither any priest nor bishop, nay, not even the Pope, can give you permission to violate any of the commandments." [39]

It has been rashly stated the Mohammedans and other infidels adore the same God "together with us" [40] yet not only is this undoubtibly offensive to Catholic doctrine (as we have shown above) but it shows forth an ignorance of Islamic notion of God and their absurd doctrines. Mohammedans don't pray to their god, together with us, they pray to their false god against us! The Quran is explicit on this point as it openly states: "The Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before, may Allah destroy them, how they have turned away." [41]

Ultimately we can do no better than assume to ourselves the advice of the Apostle of the Gentiles (St. Paul) himself "Bear not the yoke with unbelievers. For what participation hath justice with injustice? Or what fellowship hath light with darkness? And what concord hath Christ with Belial? Or what part hath the faithful with the unbeliever? And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols?" - II Cor. 6: 14-18.

[Shadow44]

Islam is the most successful heresy in history.

[grumpygresh]

Muslims worship Satan. There can never be reconciliation between Christianity and Islam, so ecumenism in this situation is dangerous and a fraud.

[DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis]

The answer is an obvious NO. I hate it when libs try to claim otherwise. Idiots.

[Bringbackthedraft]

Islam is a sex based religion. They can have 5 wives, and drop as any as they like to get fresh ones. Do you really think they’ll change? Paradise gets you 71-72 Virgins and all the milk and honey you can drink to keep you going with the 72 virgins. What guy in his right mind that believes that, would accept any other God? No wonder there are over a billion Muslims, I’m surprised there aren’t 5 billion. Then again, they probably reach that figure by the next century with all the kids they are having.

[ConorMacNessa]

I worship the Christian God who formulated the Two Great Commandments, set forth in Matthew 27:

"37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

38 This is the first and great commandment.

39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets." KJV

Love is central to Christianity.

Islam, on the other hand is focused on jihad and warfare and is more a political entity than a religion. It's stated aim is world domination.

"9:5 When the sacred months are over slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them. If they repent and take to prayer and render the alms levy, allow them to go their way. God is forgiving and merciful."

One can find numerous verses in the Qu'ran of similar nature. Islam is not at all like Christianity.

Lamh Foistenach Abu!

[doosee]

George W. Bush and Karl Rove - Islam is a Religion of Peace.... Feel good nonsense from 2 lightweight thinkers. How damaging those kind of statements are...

[CynicalBear]

That article only says Catholics can’t worship with other religions. No amount of double speak removes the clear words.

# 841 The Church’s relationship with the Muslims. “The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind’s judge on the last day.”[330] { http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/p123a9p3.htm#841 }

[supercat]

The most fundamental differences I see between Islam and other religions are

1. Islam commands its members to use physical force to retaliate against any believers who renounce their faith; while some Christian church leaders may have done so in centuries past, such actions today are viewed as having been unfortunate deviations from Christ's mission. I would suggest that this distinction alone is enough to regard Islam as a false religion: for something to be voluntary, one must have the option to decline; consequently, Muslims' continued faith cannot be considered voluntary.
2. Islam requires that its adherents revere a person whose conduct should be regarded as despicable by civilized people. I know of no other major religion which would compel its followers to worship a person whose claimed actions would be loathed by almost everyone else.

To my mind, those differences are sufficiently severe that Islam must be regarded as something fundamentally different from other religions.

[fishtank]

Vatican 2 teaches that Catholics and Muslims worship the same God.

Therefore, Vatican 2 is WRONG!!!!!!!!!!

[ml/nj]

The quote is from 1965, not 1994. Since 1965 we have new evidence.

ML/NJ

[beethovenfan]

Islam’s “Allah: is a pagan moon god worshipped by the bedouins. Mohammed came along and declared that this god was the only one.

[crghill]

Christians worship a triune God who is one God and three persons. Muslims worship a God that is one God one person. They are not the same. Not even close.

[drypowder]

Would the Father of Jesus command Islam to kill those who accept His son as their savior? Totally illogical and contradictory.

[mas cerveza por favor]

The quote is from 1965, not 1994. Since 1965 we have new evidence.

Catholics already had centuries of evidence against Muslims in 1965, but since then Catholics have seen plenty of new evidence about Modernist infiltration of Church offices. Consider this evidence of Modernist heresy:

841 The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."330

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p123a9p3.htm#841

I hasten to add for any non-Catholic readers that the latest Catechism (CCC) is definitely non-infallible since it is derived from the non-infallible Vatican II council.

[x_plus_one]

Islam is a war plan from the father of lies.

[Prokopton]

Two men may be married to one woman, but that does not mean that they are married to the same woman.

Logically, if there is just one woman, it does.

Do Catholics and Muslims worship the same God? I do not worry myself with such questions because only God knows.

[Engedi]

Correct...Islam does not believe in the trinity; they also do not believe that Jesus is son of God, they believe he was a prophet.

[mas cerveza por favor]

Do Catholics and Muslims worship the same God? I do not worry myself with such questions because only God knows.

Then do you have a problem with Modernists deceptively reversing Church teaching to say Catholics must believe they worship the same God as Muslims?

[ReformationFan]

Nope. Roman Catholics are Trinitarian. Mohammedans are not. And I say this as a Protestant.