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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
Baptism was nothing but a symbolic gesture of a change in life. Only the blood of Christ can remove sin.

Have you even read my posts?

Let's review.

1 Peter 3:21 clearly states much of what you just posted. Acts 19 links receiving the Holy Spirit with baptism. (So baptism is quite a bit more significant than 'nothing but a symbolic gesture') Romans 6 details how baptism is required to join in the death burial and resurrection of Jesus.

C'mon Ruy, quit dancing.

Is baptism necessary?

169 posted on 12/16/2011 10:47:32 AM PST by JOAT
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To: JOAT

***Romans 6 details how baptism is required to join in the death burial and resurrection of Jesus.***

Like all immersionists they see the word “baptism” and think water.

Read Romans 6 carefully;
Know ye not that so many of us as were baptized INTO Christ were baptized INTO his death?

Therefore we are buried with him by baptism INTO DEATH: like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall also be in the likeness of his resurrection.

***Now pay attention!****

Knowing this that our old man IS CRUCIFIED WITH HIM, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should no longer serve sin.

Gal 2:20 I am crucified with Christ, never the less I live, yet not I, but Christ liveth in me...

Ever notice how Paul references the Crucifiction of Christ? Did you ever notice that Paul also said, concerning water baptism, I Cor 1:14, I THANK GOD that I baptized none of you, but Crispus and Gaius;

Lest any should say that I baptized in my own name.

And I baptized also the household of Stephanas, besides, I KNOW NOT WHETHER I BAPTIZED ANY OTHER.

FOR CHRIST SENT ME NOT TO BAPTIZE, BUT TO PREACH THE GOSPEL....

If water baptism were so important why did God not include that in Paul’s commission? Paul did baptize but you can see he didn’t seem to keep too much track of it.

There are mentions of water baptism and baptism INTO Christ. Can you discern the difference?

Good discussion on baptism from the ancient Greeks here.

http://www.ucmi.org/ucmi/chap11.htm


176 posted on 12/16/2011 3:08:58 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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