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To: Cronos
I can not seem to find the verses in Scripture wherein Paul say not to keep Torah. Where Paul out right rejected circumcision. Did he not tell the circumcision Torah terrorists that Moses is read in the synagogue every sabbath? YES he did. Therefore the new converts would learn the instructions over time and it will be the circumcision of their hearts that will bring them into obedience as they learn.

What part of Messiah saying that his doctrine is not his but the doctrine of the One that sent him? What part of there was no other instruction book than Torah to read and teach from don't you understand? What part of YHVH saying He never changes is so hard to understand? Are traditions of man so important that they now supersede the Word of YHVH?

142 posted on 12/23/2011 12:22:48 PM PST by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: patlin
Where Paul out right rejected circumcision

Now do read the Bible -- Galatians 5:2-3 2Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing.
3For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law.
4Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.

and 1 Cor 7:18 18Is any man called being circumcised? let him not become uncircumcised. Is any called in uncircumcision? let him not be circumcised.

Please do read the Bible and realise that your statement Paul were Jewish who followed Messiah in the keeping and teaching of Torah is wrong -- he on the matter of circumcision taught against the Torah.

147 posted on 12/23/2011 12:49:17 PM PST by Cronos (Nuke Mecca and Medina now..)
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To: patlin
What part of there was no other instruction book than Torah to read and teach from don't you understand?

So do you not read or teach from any of the New Testament books? Are Galatians and Colossians not worthwhile to you?

148 posted on 12/23/2011 12:50:24 PM PST by Cronos (Nuke Mecca and Medina now..)
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