Christmas, Pagan Romans and Frodo Baggins

Crisis Magazine ^ | December 23, 2011 | Rev. Dwight Longenecker

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The Catholic tradition of Mardi Gras does not include drunkenness. Perhaps you ought to inform yourself before you blame the evil debauchery that goes on in New Orleans every year on Catholics.

http://www.americancatholic.org/features/mardigras/

[RobbyS]

In the part of the South I grew up in, many protestant churches had their doors closed on Dec. 25. Many that were part of the old Puritan tradition.

[RobbyS]

Which is why the new translation of the Creed says” incarnate” of the Virgin Mary instead of “born”of the Virgin Mary. I have heard that the Annunciation was once a much bigger feast than Christmas It sure was a favor subject of artists.

[Tax-chick]

Which is why the new translation of the Creed says” incarnate” of the Virgin Mary instead of “born”of the Virgin Mary.

Good point. That's what it says in the Spanish version, "Se encarno'."

[PapaBear3625]

One thing: the Catholic Encyclopedia says the date of the Annunciation was calculated from Christmas, not the other way around:

The year and day of the Annunciation cannot be determined as long as new material does not throw more light on the subject. The present date of the feast (25 March) depends upon the date of the older feast of Christmas.

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Obviously there are conflicting views among historians and their sources. This is hardly unique to the question of the date of the Nativity or its celebration.

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

and put green drapes around their doorways.

And afterwards they sewed those drapes into dresses and went out to cheat the carpetbaggers. s/off

But her hands still looked like they came from a common field hand.