Are Mormons Christians?

You Tube.com ^ | Jan. 2, 2012 | John Ankerberg

[Colofornian]

Did Joseph Smith say all Christian churches are wrong and Mormons should join none of them? From our series entitled, "Are Mormons Christians?":

[ansel12]

That is Bishop Romney, high ranking insider and member of one of the most powerful families in the Mormon religion, the man who if elected President, will at times need special Secret Service agents who qualify as part of the Mormon devout elite, to escort Bishop Romney into certain secret Mormon events for which only about 15% of Mormons are able to witness and participate in.

[svcw]

In that you are correct.
This new revelation claim that Christ lost His church.
Christ is created not eternal
Christ is the brother of satan
Christ is not sufficient for Salvation
Christ was conceived by intercourse between (lds)god and Mary
Christ did not pay the price on the Cross but in the garden
There are gods
That god progressed, that Christ progressed
There is more of course, decades of words, hundreds of papers, books, videos, recording, etc but I am sure you get it...........

[sten]

the further right you get on the Christian scale, the smaller the brain size

way to represent, colofornian

[LegalEagle61]

THE CHRIST is what the Bible says, there is only 1 GOD, in 3 persons (Father, Son, Holy Spirit) and the Book of Mormon changes it, changes the word of God, which right there is a satan-like thing to do.

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Plain and simple, one GOD, one WAY, JESUS. I have studied the Word long enough to know (and researched forever) that the Holy Bible, not the Book of Mormon or any other weird translation, is the true word of God and is absolute in its truth. I would stake my life on it, that is how sure I am.

[One Name]

Amen. We know how the book ends. I have just always hoped I would die of old age and my offspring would have a long life before the end came.

But, when I was a new Christian, unmarried in the late 70’s we thought the Rapture was just around the corner...

At that time we recognized that there were probably Christians in other parts of the world would had experienced tribulation and were looking for redemption any day..

God Bless!

[reaganaut]

PM

[One Name]

I don’t see a problem, FRiend.

Mormonism is heresy.

[Colofornian]

don’t we support everyone’s freedom of religion and worship?

Some headhunters and cannibals and Satanists "worship" in certain ways. Is that a thing you heartily endorse?

Or what about some of the "people sacrifice" recorded in religious rituals practiced by pagans (mentioned in the Bible).

You endorse that?

Well, with Mormonism...'tis a difference in our society of not interfering with others' worship...vs. "support."

So, no...I don't "support" pagan worship that includes Satanism, cannibalism, and child sacrifice. Nor do I "support" the worship of multiple gods (Mormonism).

Are we voting based on someone’s religious beliefs? I sure hope not

Well, ya know...deception exists in the world, and when compared to trustworthy sources of truth (the Bible), deception exists as a continuum. If we agreed that a candidate belongs to the most deceptive cult in the world, then certainly that candidate's vulnerability to deception in the most important area of his life--his faith--serves as an indicator that he/she might be more easily deceived in public policy issues. "Vulnerability to deception" belongs on a character checklist! Even one 2007 poll indicated that 54% of Americans would not vote for an atheist.

A Freeper posted a Rasmussen poll 5 years ago (late 2006) [see Election 2008: 43% Would Never Vote for Mormon Candidate (Rasmussen Poll)]. According to that excerpt: The Rasmussen Reports survey found that 35% say that a candidate's faith and religious beliefs are very important in their voting decision. Another 27% say faith and religious beliefs are somewhat important. Ninety-two percent (92%) of Evangelical Christian voters consider a candidate's faith and beliefs important. On the partisan front, 78% of Republicans say that a candidate's faith is an important consideration, a view shared by 55% of Democrats. However, there is also a significant divide on this topic within the Democratic Party. Among minority Democrats, 71% consider faith and religious beliefs an important consideration for voting. Just 44% of white Democrats agree.

So…what % of the following groups found that a candidate’s faith and religious beliefs are an important consideration for voting?
(1) Americans: 62%
(2) Evangelical Christians: 92%
(3) Republicans: 78%
(4) Democrats: 55% [still a majority]

The Bible shows that true successful leadership in public office is done by those who fear the the true Lord & who do not worship false gods/idols. The OT is replete w/ such examples. The Israelites had secular kings, not "pastors in chief." But that didn't mean that these kings' ministrations were any less a "ministry." Romans 13 makes it clear that public office is also a "ministry." Those who contend against this are openly militating against this Scripture. It doesn't mean that public officeholders administrate in a parochial way; it just means that public office is a "ministry of service" just like the soup kitchen down the street. History (biblical & otherwise) shows that the more pagan or counterfeit god that a leader holds, the more trouble that leader's "exhaust" settles on the people-at-large. Kings & presidents need all the grace, mercy, & guidance possible, since God gets more credit for preserving & directing leaders than we care to give Him credit for. Therefore, one who worships a false god & has no true relationship w/the living God is stifling access to God's resources; & a nation may suffer for that.

[fred4prez]

So he has special religious obligations - you have a problem with that? I’m sure the Secret Service can come up with a solution for him. Why don’t you champion the religious freedoms of this country, and celebrate someone who is sincere and consistent in his beliefs?

[LegalEagle61]

I have to say that those who do not take the Word of God literally (and by that I mean you take it in its plain sense unless the Bible tells you not too, for example with symbolism God will use it and then explain it either a few verses later or elsewhere in the Bible) you are missing it. You are not getting it. But the Bible says that those who really don't know God will not be able to truly see or understand, and God does that purposely because He reveals to those who truly give them their hearts. You are blind until HE opens your eyes, but your job is to accept Him, if you do not you make stupid comments like you did to Colofornian.

The truth is that God wants us to take Him literally and seriously and to live our lives for Him, but those that want their own way, they cannot understand. If you are living for THIS world, you don't get it, and in reality even if you say you are a believer, you are against Him. It is not whether you know Him, it is whether HE knows YOU. So in reality my friend, it is YOUR BRAIN SIZE that is small, because you are still blind. I am not condemning you, I was once blind myself, but when I woke up, thanks to God opening my eyes, I recognized how stupid I once was, and would never go back to the way it was before. You know something else, since that day I have had peace I cannot explain and I am blessed beyond belief because i make it a point to obey God daily, He is in my life daily, and I went from struggling financially and in just about everything, to now living as if I am rich, and God gets all the credit, If you are not truly in peace and are not making enough money or are struggling, give God a try, He will bless those who truly love HIM. I am living proof.

[reaganaut]

Why don’t you champion the religious freedoms of this country, and celebrate someone who is sincere and consistent in his beliefs?

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Well, that certainly isn’t Mitt.

How much do you know about Mormonism fred?

[ansel12]

All my freedoms guarantee that I can speak my mind about any candidate, and support whom I choose and mention all of the criticisms I have of them.

Romney is sincere and until recently consistent in his pro-abortion, anti Reagan, anti-gun, anti-conservative, anti-morality, pro-homosexual, pro-socialism, pro-liberalism, even pro-democrat views.

I don’t care to celebrate that, I want to defeat it.

[svcw]

That might be correct if mormonISM where Christianity, it teaches a bastardized version of Christ.
The lds christ is created and NOT eternal
The lds christ did not pay the price on the Cross but in the garden
The lds is not sufficient for Salvation but needs your help
The lds christ is equal with Joseph Smith
mormonISM is not Christianity, no matter how liberal you want to make the definition, the lds (Joseph Smith, Brigham Young distortion) of Christ, God and the Holy Spirit in no way in anyway Christianity.
You want to spin it that way be my guest, moromnISM is vile.
Even demons beleive in Jesus, that doesn’t make them Christians.

[svcw]

Thanks Oprah.

[LegalEagle61]

I study Bible propehcy, and many thought the end would come throughout history, and then when Jesus didn't come they began to doubt. But the truth is that the reason it has not happened is because certain prophecies had to be fulfilled before it could happen, starting with Israel becoming a nation again in 1948. So since the Lord said that the generation that would see His return would be the one to see a number of prophecies fulfilled (not one or two here and there) all in the same generation, He could not have come back before 1948, but the Bible says ALL the prophecies, not just that one, and one of them was 1967 when Israel took control of Jerusalem again, the others are that Israel would bloom and blossom (they were a vast wasteland as late as 1800's and now they are a major agricultural nation), and that the Hebrew language would be restored (happened in late 1800's) and you have to understand that Israel hadn't even been a nation for liker 2000 years, so people before 1948 could not even understand what God meant when He said that Israel would become a nation again someday, they thought it impossible and imagine how impossible after the slaughter of Jews in the Holocaust? But God said it would happen and against all odds, it did. Starting the prophetic time clock of the last days. The rapture could occur at ANY time--everything needed has been fulfilled, and keeps getting fulfilled as we move on in time.

The Bible is the ONLY religious book, that even dares to make prophecies, and why is that? It is because only a REAL God can make them happen as they were prophesied hundreds of years before. Did you all know that the Bible is 2000 for 2000 in accurately and specifically fulfilling Bible prophecy? No other book can claim that, and they wouldn't even try because only GOD can do that and if they tried and got it wrong, it would show them for the false books and liars they are.

Most people do not know all this because it takes time to study it, to cross reference it, to do the research, to check the Hebrew and Greek original manuscript for clarification and understanding. But when I started doing it, with God's help I saw TRUTH. I am telling anyone and everyone that reads this, if you are not right with God and do not know Jesus as your personal savior, do it now! It is just a simple prayer to the Lord, just between you and Him. It is not based on good works (sorry Catholics that is one of the things that is not true, and i can speak because I am a FORMER Catholic whom God enlightened), on going to church, on giving all your money to a church or charity...it is a FREE gift from God for those who believe that He died on the cross to pay for your sins, but you can't get it until you tell Him that you want it, that you want Him in your life. Anyone needing help or having questions, feel free to send me an email. It is so easy to have Jesus in your heart and life, but some may think that it can't happen for them, and that is wrong. I am saying this because I know where we are in history, I don't know the day or hour as no man does, but I do believe from the evidence the Bible and world gives, that we ARE finally at the door, don't be left here, most will not survive.

[One Name]

You are 100% correct FRiend, the end will not come until all is fulfilled.

We’re getting pretty close, eh?

[ansel12]

I’m sure the Secret Service can come up with a solution for him.

Yes they can surround Bishop Romney with only other of the Mormon elite who are SS, perhaps some of them given their special Mormon status by Bishop Romney himself when he held the office, they will all then be allowed into their own secret religious ceremonies, secret from everyone who isn't a part of that Mormon secret society I assume, everyone.

[annieokie]

"""Pray for Romney and others who need to have their eyes opened with TRUTH.""""

Yes, we are commanded to do so. BUT, when they get as high up as Romney is, it is almost impossible for them to come out. Their spiritual EGO's just could not cope with that option.

[John S Mosby]

Wait a minute. Are UNITARIANS Christians?
They don’t believe that Jesus is/was God.
Or that God is the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit- in other words they are strict Monotheists. Nor do they believe in the inerrancy of the Bible- that is that the Bible is without error. How about that?

Are Scientologists Christians? Naw, just victims of a really bad sci-fi writer and lunatics with electronic devices, and really bad actors who want guaranteed work.

George Washington was an Anglican (no it’s not fishing).

Richard Nixon was a QUAKER. They believe in the priesthood of all believers. He created the EPA. Got us out of Vietnam after Harry Truman (a Southern Baptist), Dwight Eisenhower(Presbyterian), John Kennedy (Catholic) and LBJ(Disciple of Christ!) got us into it and perpetuated it from 1953 to 1975.
Daniel Boone was a QUAKER,too. He created Kain-tuck-ee, where they make Bourbon, shiners having been run out of NY by George Washington in the Whiskey Rebellion (George being one of the largest commercial whiskey distillers in the new country).

John D. Rockefeller was a Baptist teetotaler. And a lousy singer.

George W. Romney was CEO of American Motors, created the Nash Rambler automobile and then was the 43rd Governor of Michigan who initiated Michigan’s first state income tax, and was a moderate Republican who was against Goldwater,a HUD secretary under Nixon, and a Mormon.

Did y’all know that Church of England was the State Religion of New York and Virginia, prior to the Revolutionary War? And that in Virginia they used to string up Quakers?

Was Thomas Jefferson a Christian? No he was an Episcopalian/Unitarian/ Deist. He wrote the Declaration of American Independence, and the Statute of Virginia For Religious Freedom. His Republican party repealed the Whiskey Tax against Hamilton’s Federalists.

President obama’s religion is officially listed as “Christianity” And his original parents met in a Russian language class at the Univ. of Hawaii. Now, why would a marxist kenyan economist(the father I mean) want to learn Russian in Hawaii? Or be a bigamist? Or have a son who is a confessed marxist be presentdent? How ‘bout that?

[DeerJerkyDave]

Mormonism teaches that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, that salvation only comes through Him. What you’ve enumerated does not change that fact. Supposed differences in doctrinal details are not enough to hide the fundamental role Jesus Christ plays in the LDS faith, and not enough to exclude Mormonism from the Christian umbrella.