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To: AnalogReigns; rzman21; 21twelve; Iscool; UriÂ’el-2012
AnalogI’m not aware of any organized body that fully agrees with Nestorius

Nestorius publicly challenged the long-used title Theotokos (Bringer forth of God) for the Virgin Mary. He suggested that the title denied Christ's full humanity, arguing instead that Jesus had two natures, the divine Logos and the human Jesus. As such he proposed Christotokos (Bringer forth of Christ) as a more suitable title for Mary.

This would be similar to the philosophies propounded by iscool or Uri'el.

and we see a lot of these views pushed on FreeRepublic...

6 posted on 01/10/2012 4:54:16 AM PST by Cronos (Party like it's 12 20, 2012)
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To: Cronos; Iscool; UriÂ’el-2012; rzman21

So that would make iscool and Uri’el semi-Nestorians?


8 posted on 01/10/2012 5:28:25 AM PST by mas cerveza por favor
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To: Cronos
This would be similar to the philosophies propounded by iscool or Uri'el.

Ten thousand other expressions witness to the human race that they should not think that it was the godhead of the Son that was recently killed but the flesh which was joined to the nature of the godhead. (Hence also Christ calls himself the lord and son of David: “ ‘What do you think of the Christ ? Whose son is he ?’ They said to him, ‘The son of David.’ Jesus answered and said to them, ‘How is it then that David inspired by the Spirit, calls him Lord, saying, “The Lord said to my Lord, sit at my right hand”?’”. He said this as being indeed son of David according to the flesh, but his Lord according to his godhead.) The body therefore is the temple of the deity of the Son, a temple which is united to it in a high and divine conjunction, so that the divine nature accepts what belongs to the body as its own.

First off, it makes absolutely no difference what a person thinks or believes about it...It doesn't affect a person's salvation one way or the other...

But yes, I believe Nestorius' position is the biblical one...

Php 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
Php 2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
Php 2:8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

'Form' can be translated as nature...Verse 6 says Jesus had the nature of God while verse 7 says Jesus also had the nature of a servant and ultimately, the flesh...

But regardless, are you contending as Nestorius accused that the God-head died??? Is the God-head separable enough that one part of it can die???

I don't think so...But one thing is for sure and that is that Jesus had a human, corrupt body in the flesh...It could die obviously...It could and did age with time...

THAT body died...And then it was changed...It apparently was still a physical body to a degree, or when called upon to be a physical body, it certainly isn't the old corruptible flesh that Jesus was born with...

Whatever the physical Jesus was before he died is not at all the same physical Jesus that resurrected...

But I am satisfied that Nestorius had a good understanding of the scriptures when he wrote on the subject...Jesus temporarily had a human body and it was supernaturally somehow joined to the divinity of the God-head...I don't need to know how or why...

10 posted on 01/10/2012 6:04:17 AM PST by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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To: Cronos; Iscool; UriÂ’el-2012; Religion Moderator

Sounds like that’s making it personal to me by bringing in names and topics cross threads.


17 posted on 01/10/2012 12:19:40 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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