Posted on 01/11/2012 7:34:56 PM PST by RnMomof7
Mary: Mother of God?
This article is prompted by an ad in the Parade Magazine titled: "Mary Mother of God: What All Mankind Should Know." The offer was made for a free pamphlet entitled "Mary Mother of Jesus" with this explanation: "A clear, insightful pamphlet explains the importance of Mary and her role as Mother of God."
This is quite a claim, to say the least! Nowhere in the Bible is Mary said to be the mother of God. I touched on this subject in a series on "Mary Co-Redeemer with Christ" printed recently.
Question: If Mary is the Mother of God, Who, may I ask, is the Father of God? Does God have a Father, and if He does, Who is His Mother?
The phrase "Mother of God" originated in the Council of Ephesus, in the year 431 AD. It occurs in the Creed of Chalcedon, which was adopted by the council in 451 AD. This was the declaration given at that time: "Born of the Virgin Mary, the Mother of God according to the Manhood." The purpose of this statement originally was meant to emphasize the deity of Christ over against the teaching of the Nestorians whose teaching involved a dual-natured Jesus. Their teaching was that the person born of Mary was only a man who was then indwelt by God. The title "Mother of God" was used originally to counter this false doctrine. The doctrine now emphasizes the person of Mary rather than the deity of Jesus as God incarnate. Mary certainly did not give birth to God. In fact, Mary did not give birth to the divinity of Christ. Mary only gave birth to the humanity of Jesus. The only thing Jesus got from Mary was a body. Every Human Being has received a sinful nature from their parents with one exception: Jesus was not human. He was divine God in a flesh body. This is what Mary gave birth to. Read Hebrews 10:5 and Phil 2:5-11.
Please refer to Hebrews 10:5 where we see. "...Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me."
The body of Jesus was prepared by God. In Matthew 1:18, "she was found with child of the Holy Ghost."
The divine nature of Jesus existed from before eternity, and this cannot be said of Mary Jesus never called her "mother". He called her "woman".
This doctrine deifies Mary and humanizes Jesus. Mary is presented as stronger that Christ, more mature and more powerful that Christ. Listen to this statement by Rome: "He came to us through Mary, and we must go to Him through her." The Bible plainly states that God is the Creator of all things. It is a blasphemous attack on the eternity of God to ever teach that He has a mother. Mary had other children who were normal, physical, sinful human beings. In the case of Jesus Christ, "His human nature had no father and His divine nature had no mother."
It is probably no coincidence that this false doctrine surrounding Mary was born in Ephesus. Please read Acts 19:11-41 and see that Ephesus had a problem with goddess worship. Her name was Diana, Gk. Artemis. You will not have to study very deep to find the similarities between the goddess Diana and the Roman Catholic goddess, Mary. It should be noted that the Mary of the 1st century and the Mary of the 20th century are not the same. Mary of the 1st century was the virgin who gave birth to the Messiah. Mary of the 20th century is a goddess created by the Roman Catholic Church. A simple comparison of what the Bible teaches about Mary and what the Roman Catholic Church teaches about her will reveal two different Marys. Mary is not the "Mother of God." If she were she would be GOD! There is only one true, eternal God. He was not born of a woman. Any teaching on any subject should be backed up by the word of God. If it cannot be supported by Scriptures, it is false doctrine.
http://www.abu.nb.ca/courses/NTIntro/2Tim.htm
"Paul wrote 2 Timothy was when he was in prison in Rome for the second time. Unlike his first imprisonment, Paul did not expect to be released from this second Roman imprisonment. (This explains why Paul experienced a mass desertion: his associates were fleeing a dangerous political situation.) The date of the composition of 2 Timothy was during Nero's persecution of the church, c. 64-68. "
Backed up by scripture my Friend.
Acts 17:11 Now the Bereans were of more noble character than the Thessalonians, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true.
Even Paul’s words were to be examined by Scriptures “to see if what Paul said was true”. We can’t find what the RCC says to be true from scripture.
Sure. But that doesn't tell you which of the writings are Scipture, which is breathed out by God. Show the earliest list that you can reference of the complete New Testament.
Whatever lines up with Scripture.
Satan hates the word and will do anything to downplay it or get people to count on or look to something else.
If it can’t be clearly and strongly supported by Scripture in 2-3 places, I don’t accept it. One verse taken out of context is not enough support for something.
Scripture agrees with itself. There can be no contradiction in it because God cannot change and He cannot lie.
Show me where Scripture says that everything they said and taught is recorded in Scripture.
Why? What's that got to do with putting tradition at the same level of authority as Scripture and rejecting the ultimate authority of Scripture?
Whatever lines up with your own personal interpretation of Scripture. But I wouldn't expect you to know the difference.
Satan hates the word and will do anything to downplay it or get people to count on or look to something else.
Like your own personal interpretation of Scripture.
Scripture agrees with itself. There can be no contradiction in it because God cannot change and He cannot lie.
That's true. But that says nothing about your interpretations.
About the same reliability as the Roman Catholic Church or for that matter any Catholic Church.
We were talking about the earliest occurrences where all the books of the New Testament are declared as Scripture, i.e. God's word. Scripture itself doesn't name them. The Tradition of the Church does.
As said by those proclaiming the spirit in their head as their authority.
Are you saying that if the Bereans were commended for even checking scripture for the truth of what Paul taught that somehow he was saying that things he taught were not contained in scripture? If the things he was teaching were not found in scripture how could they check scripture if “these things are true”? If he was teaching that scripture did not contain all the things he taught how could they “search the scriptures daily to see if these things be true”? If the CC says all things are not in scripture did Paul not teach those things “not found in scripture”?
No, I was asking. Show me where Scripture says that everything they said and taught is recorded in Scripture.
Backed up by scripture.
Galatians 3:27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
2 Corinthians 1:22 Who hath also sealed us, and given the earnest of the Spirit in our hearts.
Romans 8:10: Paul tells us, "If Christ is in you, the body is dead because of sin."
Galatians 2:20: Paul speaks of himself and all true Christians: "I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me."
Romans 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
Galatians 3:27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
2 Corinthians 1:22 Who hath also sealed us, and given the earnest of the Spirit in our hearts.
"The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned." 1 Cor 2:14
And I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Counselor to be with you forever--the Spirit of Truth. The world cannot accept Him, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him. But you know Him, for He lives with you and will be in you. John 14:16,17
Acts 15:8 And God, who knows the heart, bore witness by granting them the holy Spirit just as he did us. 9 He made no distinction between us and them, for by faith he purified their hearts.
Rely on the Catholic Church if you want but I will rely on the indwelling Spirit of God promised to all of those who truly believe on Him. It's dangerous to blaspheme the Holy Spirit by calling it the "spirit in their head" in a condescending manner.
And my interpretations that are *wrong* are what?
And everyone with a conflicting interpretation of Scripture claims he is the one who has the Spirit of Christ.
It's dangerous to blaspheme the Holy Spirit by calling it the "spirit in their head" in a condescending manner.
If I was calling the Holy Spirit that it would be blasphemy. But since I'm not, no worries. I'm referring to the spirits that leads people to erroneous and conflicting interpretations of Scripture.
Not from the Holy Spirit.
Acts 17:11 Now the Bereans were of more noble character than the Thessalonians, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true.
If what they taught was not in scripture the Bereans couldn’t have “examined the scriptures daily to see if what Paul said was true”. In other words, everything Paul taught was found in scriptures. In other words, Paul taught nothing that was not to be found in scriptures. In other words, if it wasn’t found in scriptures it was not true.
And again, who claims that and what's that got to do with recognizing the ultimate and final authority of Scripture.
It's more than hypocritical for Catholics to appeal to the authority of Scripture to back up their defense of using their tradition, and then turn around and reject the authority of Scripture to back up anything they disagree with.
Call the posse for help. Maybe they can save you.
Nice evasion. Very smooth.
Try again.
What have I interpreted wrong? Show me Scriptural support for your position.
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