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Mary: Mother of God?
What Does the Bible say? ^ | 01/11/2012 | Bro. Lev Humphries,

Posted on 01/11/2012 7:34:56 PM PST by RnMomof7

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To: D-fendr; presently no screen name; smvoice; RnMomof7; metmom; boatbums; caww; editor-surveyor; ...
>> Your whole basis for doctrine has be exposed as self-negating, your opinions on scripture are just that, your opinions which cannot withstand examination.<<

Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, 23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

Whether an image of what you think God looks like, whether you think you are worshiping that image or not, it’s idolatry according to the clear teaching of scripture. The Catholic Church and those who follow the teaching of that church are using “images of God” and are practicing idolatry.

I pray the number of times I was given the opportunity to post those verses allowed for more who lurk to see the truth of scripture and the deceit of the RCC. Thank you for the opportunity.

841 posted on 01/13/2012 12:12:24 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: lastchance

>> “So no photos of your dear ones, then?” <<

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I don’t mind so much the camels that you swallow,

But please don’t offer me one to swallow too. This example of gnat straining is more than enough.


842 posted on 01/13/2012 12:13:45 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: lastchance
>> I do care that you spread error and are not able to grasp the flaws in your argument.<<

Then maybe you should show me from scripture where God rescinded His restriction on making images of Him and said it was something that could be done.

843 posted on 01/13/2012 12:14:54 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: editor-surveyor

Scripture says that a biological, corruptible body cannot enter into the presence of God, and must be changed. It must “put on” incorruption.

Do you really not understand that Paul is speaking here to US, that we must put on the incorruptibility of CHRIST?

He is not speaking of Christ here, otherwise, he would be saying that Jesus was subject to sin, which is heresy.


844 posted on 01/13/2012 12:16:23 PM PST by Jvette
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To: D-fendr
>>I don't care what you think<<

Bwahahahahahahahaha!

>>If you can't or won't defend your attacks, just stop them.<<

I has become obvious that just posting scripture attacks the CC.

845 posted on 01/13/2012 12:17:16 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: D-fendr
Why would you ask?..... No doubt I'm familiar with what idolatry is...catholics put on a good show of it so not hard to see.

Do you think doing a word study is going to change the facts that many catholics bow, pray to, light candles to, have festivals and parades with images of idols, and builds shrines to their idols.... as people attempt to even touch these wooden figures in hopes for healing or favors......you can't be so Nieve... well maybe.

846 posted on 01/13/2012 12:17:48 PM PST by caww
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To: CynicalBear
Oh so willing to proclaim idolatry, oh so unwilling to demonstrate knowledge of what an idol even is.

it’s idolatry

Would you know an idol if you saw it?

Is this an idol?

If you can't say, then your opinion: "it's idolatry" is absolutely worthless.

Thank you for the opportunity.

Likewise.

847 posted on 01/13/2012 12:17:48 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: roamer_1; metmom; CynicalBear
Absolutely, totally, and completely CORRECT, roamer. THAT'S the point. WHAT YOU SAID! And THANKS for saying it!

"For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground; he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him." Isaiah 53:3.

Hardly the "picture" of Christ that people are used to seeing. And THIS is yet another reason that so many ARE deceived SO easily by SO MANY things. I would include "apparitions" and "visions" of Mary in this, too. For SURE.

848 posted on 01/13/2012 12:18:12 PM PST by smvoice (Better Buck up, Buttercup. The wailing and gnashing is for an eternity..)
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To: D-fendr
You're already enlightened.

Then I cannot be ignorant. Make up your mind, please.

Just apply what you posted to Christ in the same manner. If one applies, then the other applies.

Again, I don't see what you are driving at.

And then you're well on the road to a common atheist position.

I can guarantee to you that I am FAR away from atheism.

Hence, be careful, friend, understand what you are saying before you say it.

Again, enlighten me.

849 posted on 01/13/2012 12:18:52 PM PST by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: caww
Why would you ask?

Why should anyone take your opinion and accusations of idolatry seriously if you don't know what an idol is and couldn't tell one if you saw it?

850 posted on 01/13/2012 12:19:24 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: editor-surveyor

It was an honest question to see if you were consistent with your defintion of idolatry.

But I understand if it baffles you.


851 posted on 01/13/2012 12:19:24 PM PST by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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To: roamer_1

So glad you brought this up, roamer. It deserves it’s own thread.


852 posted on 01/13/2012 12:20:46 PM PST by bonfire
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To: roamer_1

You are doing, knowingly or not, comparative religion. In this case Christianity with ancient myths - and denouncing any similarities in Christianity.

If this is your position, integrity would say: do the same for Christ.

Capiché?


853 posted on 01/13/2012 12:21:40 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: roamer_1

So glad you brought this up, roamer. deserves its own thread.


854 posted on 01/13/2012 12:22:28 PM PST by bonfire
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To: D-fendr

:)


855 posted on 01/13/2012 12:24:14 PM PST by Jvette
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To: caww; D-fendr; CynicalBear; editor-surveyor; metmom

This is the “beauty of the Catholic Church”. They define what idolatry is then the “faithful” follow their definition. Never mind what the Bible says it is. If it’s not idolatry in the CC, then it’s not idolatry. How CONVENIENT, yet again, for the CC..


856 posted on 01/13/2012 12:24:31 PM PST by smvoice (Better Buck up, Buttercup. The wailing and gnashing is for an eternity..)
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To: roamer_1

Well stated!


857 posted on 01/13/2012 12:25:25 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: Jvette

You’re just dropping the ball on every play.

Christ got his incorruptibility when he was buried.

The incorruptibility of which Paul spoke was completely WRT our biological bodies. They cannot withstand the presence of God, just as Christ’s could not, until it was changed.

As to sin, yes Jesus was tempted, as we are. The difference is he was able to resist it to do his Father’s work. That is not heresy.


858 posted on 01/13/2012 12:26:02 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: bonfire; roamer_1
deserves its own thread.

There already is, on atheist websites.

Honestly, are you guys completely ignorant about where you are going here?

859 posted on 01/13/2012 12:26:52 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: bonfire; roamer_1
deserves its own thread.

There already is, on atheist websites.

Honestly, are you guys completely ignorant about where you are going here?

860 posted on 01/13/2012 12:27:47 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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