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To: CynicalBear

This couldn’t be more wrong and the contradictions in it are astounding.

First....

From the cross, Jesus made seven statements. Imagine, He is hanging on the cross with nails through His hands and feet. He must hold Himself up in order to have the breath to speak and so say these seven things.

One of the things He says, Woman behold thy son! Behold thy mother!

Notice the use of exclamation points. This was an important and powerful statement. A declaration. It was not simply a last minute thought on the part of Jesus before He died to see that His mother had care after He died.

That is so laughable, I am embarrassed that it was written. It ranks right up there with the one saying Jesus, God, gave Peter the name of rock because he was hard headed.

Second.

Do you not see the profound contradiction in the fact that on the one hand, protestants say that Jesus had siblings born of Mary, and then in their haste to deny the true meaning of this verse, they say that Jesus had to see to her care because it was the duty of the offspring to take care of the parents.

What happened to all the offspring protestants say Mary had? Why would Jesus, at the last minute, hanging from the cross, who cries out to God and says six other things that complete the fulfillment of His mission, suddenly think that none of His brothers and sisters would care for their mother?

I have given you the Scriptural support for why Christians from the beginning have regarded Mary as their spiritual mother.

You have given a totally absurd on its face, outright belly laugh inducing, mindless repeat of protestant pablum spewed out of a need to reject anything Catholic rather than accept Scripture that fully supports the Catholic belief.

Funny, too, how when a protestant wants to deny the Catholic understanding of a passage, all of a sudden the words of Jesus are meant only for the person in the passage to whom He is speaking and not all believers.

Then of course, when rejecting others, such as when He gives Peter the keys of the kingdom, NOW He is speaking to All believers.

Meh. Haven’t seen anything new in this post and certainly nothing to be given any thought than I have.


1,379 posted on 01/15/2012 8:55:12 AM PST by Jvette
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To: Jvette
>>Do you not see the profound contradiction in the fact that on the one hand, protestants say that Jesus had siblings born of Mary, and then in their haste to deny the true meaning of this verse, they say that Jesus had to see to her care because it was the duty of the offspring to take care of the parents.<<

Jesus was the eldest was He not? According to Jewish law and tradition it would have fallen on Him to ensure her being looked after and cared for.

>>I have given you the Scriptural support for why Christians from the beginning have regarded Mary as their spiritual mother.<

All of which were stretched beyond credible and in contradiction of scripture itself.

Galatians 4:26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

\ The church in Rome is of the bondwoman.

>>rather than accept Scripture that fully supports the Catholic belief<<

Then of course you could give scriptural proof of the bodily assumption of Mary and of the “universal consent” as to the woman in Revelation 12?

Roman Catholic theologian Father Hubert J. Richards agrees that the Revelation 12 woman refers to Israel. His book, What The Spirit Says to the Churches: A Key to the Apocalypse of John, carries the Nihil obstat and Imprimatur of the Roman Catholic Church.13 Concerning the woman of Revelation 12, Father Richards writes: (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2831799/posts?page=1343#1343)

1,392 posted on 01/15/2012 9:25:16 AM PST by CynicalBear
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To: Jvette
Do you not see the profound contradiction in the fact that on the one hand, protestants say that Jesus had siblings born of Mary, and then in their haste to deny the true meaning of this verse, they say that Jesus had to see to her care because it was the duty of the offspring to take care of the parents.

What happened to all the offspring protestants say Mary had? Why would Jesus, at the last minute, hanging from the cross, who cries out to God and says six other things that complete the fulfillment of His mission, suddenly think that none of His brothers and sisters would care for their mother?

Gen 3:16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

You said this woman is Mary...Mary who in sorrow shall bring forth CONCEPTION and CHILDREN...

So what's up with that???

1,414 posted on 01/15/2012 11:41:37 AM PST by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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