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To: D-fendr; CynicalBear
Why on earth would I look to you for the slightest accuracy on the Church's teaching? That would be quite futile.

We refer to your own Catechism of the Catholic church.

Like here....

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/__P2C.HTM

966 "Finally the Immaculate Virgin, preserved free from all stain of original sin, when the course of her earthly life was finished, was taken up body and soul into heavenly glory, and exalted by the Lord as Queen over all things, so that she might be the more fully conformed to her Son, the Lord of lords and conqueror of sin and death."506

The Assumption of the Blessed Virgin is a singular participation in her Son's Resurrection and an anticipation of the resurrection of other Christians:

In giving birth you kept your virginity; in your Dormition you did not leave the world, O Mother of God, but were joined to the source of Life. You conceived the living God and, by your prayers, will deliver our souls from death.507

. . . she is our Mother in the order of grace

The Catholic church teaches that the prayers of Mary can deliver our souls from death.

That's official church teaching. You are obligated to believe it, are you not? Or is the CCC optional?

591 posted on 01/21/2012 3:17:23 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom; smvoice; boatbums; caww

I was just reading that they haven’t been able to find those missing people on that cruise ship but they dedicated the manpower and made the extra effort to find the statue of Mary and carefully as to not do damage remove it. No idolatry there tho.


595 posted on 01/21/2012 3:54:19 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: metmom

If you were to pray for someone, do you think this will, will not, or might be efficacious?


666 posted on 01/22/2012 12:06:04 AM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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