If only you knew how serious and grown up those words really are. Catholics like to focus on the physical. The physical works for salvation. The physical bread and wine. They tell us the physical bread and wine is what will “give us life” when Jesus says:
Matthew 15:17 Do not ye yet understand, that whatsoever entereth in at the mouth goeth into the belly, and is cast out into the draught? Deuteronomy 8:3 And he humbled thee, and suffered thee to hunger, and fed thee with manna, which thou knewest not, neither did thy fathers know; that he might make thee know that man doth not live by bread only, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of the LORD doth man live.
Catholics tell us that it’s the bread and wine we eat but scripture says:
Ezek 3:1 Moreover he said unto me, Son of man, eat that thou findest; eat this scroll, and go speak unto the house of Israel. 2 So I opened my mouth, and he caused me to eat that scroll. 3 And he said unto me, Son of man, cause thy belly to eat, and fill thy bowels with this roll that I give thee. Then did I eat it; and it was in my mouth as honey for sweetness.
Jer 15:16 Thy words were found, and I did eat them; and thy word was unto me the joy and rejoicing of mine heart: for I am called by thy name, O LORD God of hosts.
Catholics tell us it’s the physical that bread and wine but scripture says:
1 Corinthians 10:3 And did all eat the same spiritual meat; 4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.
Catholics of today ignore the words of even those who they claim to be “church fathers”.
Then, having taken the bread and given it to His disciples, He made it His own body, by saying, “This is my body,” that is, the figure of my body. A figure, however, there could not have been, unless there were first a veritable body…Thus did He now consecrate His blood in wine, who then (by the patriarch) used the figure of wine to describe His blood.” -Tertullian, Against Marcion 4. 40
“And in the history of the New Testament by that so great and so wonderful forbearance of our Lord; in that He bore so long with him as if good, when He was not ignorant of his thoughts; in that He admitted him to the Supper in which He committed and delivered to His disciples the figure of His Body and Blood; finally, in that He received the kiss of peace at the very time of His betrayal; it is easily understood how Christ showed peace to.” -Augustine, On the Psalms, Psalm 3:1
“But most of those who were present, by not understanding Him, were offended; for in hearing these things, they thought only of flesh, that which themselves were. But the apostle says, and says what is true, “To be carnally-minded is death.” The Lord gives us His flesh to eat, and yet to understand it according to the flesh is death; while yet He says of His flesh, that therein is eternal life. Therefore we ought not to understand the flesh carnally.” -Augustine, Homilies on the Gospel of John, Tractate XXVII.1
“Now, if ‘everything that entereth into the mouth goes into the belly and is cast out into the drought,’ even the meat which has been sanctified through the word of God and prayer, in accordance with the fact that it is material, goes into the belly and is cast out into the draught, but in respect of the prayer which comes upon it, according to the proportion of the faith, becomes a benefit and is a means of clear vision to the mind which looks to that which is beneficial, and it is not the material of the bread but the word which is said over it which is of advantage to him who eats it not unworthily of the Lord. And these things indeed are said of the typical and symbolical body. But many things might be said about the Word Himself who became flesh, and true meat of which he that eateth shall assuredly live for ever, no worthless person being able to eat it; for if it were possible for one who continues worthless to eat of Him who became flesh, who was the Word and the living bread, it would not have been written, that 'every one who eats of this bread shall live for ever.’” -Origen, Commentary on Matthew, On Matthew 11:14
I suppose it's to be expected that were someone to believe they have replaced the Holy Ghost in the Trinity to become the sole infallible interpreter of His Word, they would also believe they can read the mind of others. Normal folks have to wonder whether or not someone who worships their own, Most High and Holy Self responds to what they read in the minds of others or to what others actually say.
Mind readers almost always try to expand their client base or band of ego bolstering fans by hiding the fact that they're really occultists, just like little "spiritualist" Margret McDonald hid the fact she was an occult spiritualist after someone took her Rapture of the Snowflakes fantasy seriously. Spiritualists, occultists, conspiracy theorists, and those who seek to sow divisions among Christians, all often claim to be Christian in spite of the fact that they almost all deny the deity of Christ.
Those who call Jesus Christ a liar deny that Christ is the Son of God, whether they call Christ a liar after first declaring they have replaced the Holy Ghost and are the infallible interpreter of Scripture, do so without realizing it by accepting something others tell them, or whether they just assert that since they worship their own, Most High and Holy Self, whatever they say is true in spite of what Jesus Christ or the Word of God say to the contrary. However such folks rationalize calling Jesus Christ a liar:
Titus 3:9 but avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law. For they are unprofitable and vain.
Titus 3:10 A man that is a heretic, after the first and second admonition, avoid:
Titus 3:11 Knowing that he, that is such an one, is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned by his own judgment.
Sharing the Word of God with such folks is like throwing pearls before swine as is illustrated by the fact that such heretics cannot understand even a simple thing like, " ... not by faith only". Anyone not already blinded by the worship of their own, Most High and Holy Self can clearly see that those who deny the deity of Christ have already been given over to a reprobate mind. Those who continue to deny the deity of Christ can fool themselves however they like, but they should get used to the idea of hearing, "I never knew you" from the very Jesus Christ they deny is God.
Ah, a little knowledge is indeed a dangerous thing.
I suggest a little more research into Tertullian that isn’t misquotes and misunderstandings posted by an anti Catholic agenda.
Here is good place to start, if you want that is...
http://www.philvaz.com/apologetics/num29.htm
Your passages from Ezekial and Jeremiah, do not contradict the Eucharist. In fact they foreshadow and confirm it.
As for Augustine...Did you even read where that passage was piecemealed together from? Or do you just accept without further investigation that what you posted is all that was said by Augustine? I don’t know where you got that quote, but it has been put together by someone wishing to make it seem to say exactly the opposite of what Augustine wrote.
Augustine here is speaking about people like YOU! People who ask the stupid question over and over again about feeling hunger after eating His body and Blood.
If you are going to try to use early fathers to support your unbelief, at the very least you should read them first to be sure they are saying what you so desperately need to think they say.
Ditto for Origen.
I'm afraid the childish babblers are those who prefer to pretend they please God by their own merits and to present to him their "home made" mud pies of their works of righteousness when only the perfection of Christ, himself, can open the door to salvation and eternal life.