[raygunfan]

as long as you are content in your stunted growth as a christian, and feel comfy in your man-made thelogy, as opposed to what shows, and is documented historically from the time of the apostles, that’s fine....

[fish hawk]

What is it about Romans 10:9 that you can't grasp? I don't believe that was made up by me. It was said by Paul. You do know Paul, right? It does not say, believe and join the church, believe and give money, believe and go door to door or believe and tell a priest your inner sins. It just says believe. If you add to that, what you are telling God is: I have to add to your Grace Lord, grace is just not enough to save me. Well, I don't want to say that to God but if Catholics do , go ahead.

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

****....and feel comfy in your man-made thelogy,***

Man made theology? Complete with chapter and verses right out of the Bible. Jesus, Luke, Matthew, John, Paul, Peter and a few others men.

Eph 1:3 ¶ Blessed [be] the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly [places] in Christ:

Eph 1:4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

Eph 1:5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,

Eph 1:6 To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.

Eph 1:13 In whom ye also [trusted], after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

Eph 1:14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.

Please notice all this is in PAST TENSE as something ALREADY DONE.