Skip to comments.How can Jesus & Lucifer be spirit brothers when their characters & purposes are so utterly opposed?
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How can Jesus and Lucifer be spirit brothers when their characters and purposes are so utterly opposed?
Jess L. Christensen, Institute of Religion director at Utah State University, Logan Utah.
On first hearing the doctrine that Lucifer and our Lord, Jesus Christ are brothers may seem surprising to some - especially to those unacquainted with latter-day revelations. But both the scriptures and the prophets affirm that Jesus Christ and Lucifer are indeed offspring of our Heavenly Father and, therefore, spirit brothers. Jesus Christ was with the Father from the beginning. Lucifer, too, was an angel "who was in authority in the presence of God," a "son of the morning." (See Isa. 14:12; D&C 76:25-27.) Both Jesus and Lucifer were strong leaders with great knowledge and influence. But as the Firstborn of the Father, Jesus was Lucifer's older brother. (See Col. 1:15; D&C 93:21.)
How could two such great spirits become so totally opposite? The answer lies in the principle of agency which has existed from all eternity (D&C 93:30-31.) Of Lucifer, the scripture says that because of rebellion "he became Satan, yea, even the devil, the father of all lies (Moses 4:4.) Note that he was not created evil, but became Satan by his own choice.
When our Father in Heaven presented his plan of salvation, Jesus sustained the plan and his part in it, giving the glory to God, to whom it properly belonged. Lucifer, on the other hand, sought power, honor and glory only for himself (See Isa. 14: 13-14; Moses 4:1-2.) When his modification of the Father's plan was rejected he rebelled against God and was subsequently cast out of heaven with those who had sided with him (See Rev. 12: 7-9; D&C 29: 36-37.)
That brothers would make dramatically different choices is not unusual. It has happened time and time again, as the scriptures attest: Cain chose to serve Satan; Abel chose to serve God. (See Moses 5:16-18.) Esau "despised his birthright"; Jacob wanted to honor it. (Gen. 25: 29-34.) Joseph's brothers sought to kill him; he soughtvto preserve them. (Gen. 37: 12-24; Gen. 45: 3-11.
It is ironic that the agency with which Lucifer rebelled is the very gift he tried to take from man. His proposal was that all be forced back into God's presence. (See Moses 4: 1,3.) But the principle of agency is fundamental to the existence and progression of intelligent beings.; as we make wise choices we grow in light and truth. On the other hand, wrong choices - such as the one Satan made - stop progress and can even deny us blessings that we already have. (See D&C 93: 30-36.)
In order for us to progress, therefore, we must have the opportunity to choose good or evil. Interestingly, Satan and his angels - those who opposed agency - have become the opposition. As the prophet Lehi taught "Men are free according to the flesh; and all things are given them which are expedient unto man. And they are free to choose liberty and eternal life through the great Mediator of all men, or to choose captivity and death according to the captivity and power of the devil; for he seeketh that all men might be miserable like unto himself." (2 Neh. 2: 27.)
Although the Father has allowed Satan and his angels to tempt mankind, he has given each of us the ability to rise above temptation (See 1 Cor. 10:13.) He has also given us the grrat gift of the atonement. When the Lord placed enmity between Eve's children and the devil, Satan was told that he would bruise the heel of Eve's seed, but her seed would bruise his head (See Moses 4:21.) President Joseph Fielding Smith explained that "The 'God of Peace' who according to the scriptures is to bruise Satan is Jesus Christ." ( Answers to Gospel Questions, Salt Lake City: Deseret Book Co., 1957; 1:3.)
Satan would bruise the Saviors' heel by leading men to crucify Him. But through his death and resurrection, Christ overcame death for all of us; and through his atonement, he offers each of us a way to escape the eternal ramifications of sin. Thus, Satan's machinations have been frustrated and eventually he will be judged, bound, and castbinto hell forever (See Rev. 20: 1-10; D&C 29:26-29.)
In Hebrew, the word bruise means "to crush or grind." Therefore, the very heel that was bruised will crush Satan and will help us overcome the world and return to our Father. As we use our agency to choose good over evil, the atonement of Christ prepares the way for us to return to our Father in Heaven.
We can only imagine the sorrow of our Heavenly Father as he watched a loved son incite and lead a rebellion and lose his opportunity for exaltation. But we can also imagine the Fathers love and rejoicing as he welcomed back the beloved son who had valiantly and perfectly fought the battles of life and brought about the great Atonement through his suffering and death.
The Primary lessons in the manual never seem long enough. As a teacher, I always finishvbefore class time ends. What is appropriate for me to do?
Why does D&C 104:1 say that the united order was an everlasting order until the Lord comes, yet it is not practiced today?
You're all making two of the same mistakes IMHO. First of all you're assuming that the breakway LDS sect of mormonism believes in the Christ of the bible, which they don't, and secondly you are assuming this makes sense to them, which it doesn't...they are just so brainwashed they accept it.
Breakaway LDS Sect Prophet Seer and Revelator Gordon B Hinckley told the world that mormons worship ANOTHER CHRIST.
"In bearing testimony of Jesus Christ, President Hinckley spoke of those outside the Church who say Latter-day Saints 'do not believe in the traditional Christ.' 'No, I don't. The traditional Christ of whom they speak is not the Christ of whom I speak. (LDS Church News Week ending June 20, 1998, page 7 )
I am a former breakaway LDS sect "high priest" and bishopric member, having spen 35 years of my life in the deceptive, destructive, and all consuming CULT of Harry Ried and Mitt Romney. I was saved by Christ after being prepared by the FR Inmans, here during Romney's 2008 attempt to steal a second third of the national government for Salt Lake city cult leaders.
In the JST Bible Smith made big changes to the verses you just listed. Allow me to expose them.
John 1:1-2 (KJV)
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 He was with God in the beginning.
JST version John 1:1-2
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
John 1:18 KJV
No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God.
John 1:18 JST
18 For the law was after a carnal commandment, to the administration of death; but the gospel was after the power of an endless life, through Jesus Christ, the Only Begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father.
Looks like Smith completed deleted verse 18.
LDS sect mormons EITHER can disavow Smith as a prophet OR OWN his corrupt translation of the bible, and the deserve PRECISELY ZERO wiggle room on this from TRUE CHRISTIANS !
One runs the risk of blood atonement by posting these glimpses behind the curain. I am not sure Mittens wants us to know about this.
As a Christian, all I can say is what complete and utter blasphemy!
If they were honest the LDS reply would be “because our founding prophet was a fraud and entirely full of s***”. Just my opinion and in no way meant to imply that Mormons don’t have a perfect right to believe whatever they choose. But the fact that somebody had to ask such a question reveals a lot.
The Dims are delighted that Mitt-toast might be the Dumb Party's pick.
They will expose mormonism for the cult that it is.
Most people in this country had NO CLUE....Obama went to a totally RACIST church.
The only guy I recall going hard on that...was Hannity.
I called my local GOP HQ's the other day. Told them I'm done being a Republican...if Romney get's the nod. @#^$%^!! them.....!!!
Simple: It’s blasphemy to equate the Savior with a liar and created being.
-J.S. (The mormon church is insane).
Jesus and the Father are one in the same “ If you have seen me you have seen the Father “
An attack on true Christian believers.
Jesus was and is GOD.
Lucifer was and is only and angel who failed a test and took a third of the angels with him.
You just don’t get it do you? Mormonism is a CULT, it is not a Christian entity. No matter what Romney, Beck or the MSM say, it is a cult. It is not grounded on biblical principles, never has been.
Thank you for posting this. It speaks volumes about what the LDS really believe vs. their canned ‘testimonies’ outsiders so often hear.
I do get it.
I have already said that Mormonism is incompatible with the Nicene Creed and the Word of God.
Mormonism is not Christian by any stretch of the imagination.
I agree with all that you say.
This thread was to rip the mask off of Mormonism.
Thanks for posting that vid which nails it on the head.
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