Posted on 02/11/2012 10:13:46 AM PST by RnMomof7
Do the other “institutions” parade themselves as representatives of Christ? If others don’t see what you are doing as pathetic be advised that I certainly do.
When you find an example of Presbyterians or Methodists or Lutherans sending the offenders away, hiding them til the statues of limitations runs out ..then we will discuss this .
What is a "statue of limitations," ignoramus?
And have Protestant churches not simply get preachers go off to other climes in order to avoid scandal? Growing up in a small Southern town, I personally know of at least four instances of this. I also remember the small “Bible” Baptist church that my grandmother attended, whose young pastor skipped out with the money for the building funds, in which my grandmother had put donating she could not afford. All institutions have such thieves.
This article shocked me..the sheer number in one diocese that are still in ministry ..says it all .. In my dioceses I knew 3 offenders personally ..and actually liked them.. when two of them were caught they “retired “ and moved to Fla ..The other was sent for alcohol tx ..even thought the young man tried to commit suicide
Well, the Catholic Church claims to be Christ’s Church. But here you now claim that the Church is a criminal ,organization. Open your own books to the law and see if they find you innocent of all crime. IRS probably could send you to jail for many innocent evasions. I say that because the Church has been subjected to such close scrutiny that it amounts to persecutions in some cases. The prosector has even demanded an autopsy of a very aged Cardinal so as to rule out suicide/murder. This sort of fever is dangerous, because it is a dangerous to the liberty of all churches when prosectors so undercut the rights of mine.
Catholics seem to love their preditor ‘priests,’ judging by the posts to this thread.
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"One must indeed take care to avid confessing to a priest of known bad character, but I do not believe that his sin strips away his power to absolve, for though he may have THE RIGHT TO WITHHOLD ABSOLUTION, it is not he who actually absolves, BUT THE CHURCH."
"And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with HIM, HAVING FORGIVEN YOU ALL TRESPASSES." (Col. 2:13).
Did Christ pay the full penalty for our sins?
Remitting or retaining sins. The eucharist. The mass. Praying to dead saints. Sacraments. Rosaries. Pomp. Circumstance. And yet with all that "power" and "glory" they simply cannot understand why power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. All they can do is clear their throats, and warn people they should be "aware" of bad priests..What does that even mean?
The absolute proof that God did NOT ordain the Catholic Church as His Church is their actions for the last 2000 years. God does not subsidize deceit, false doctrine, hypocrisy, false piousness, or forms of godliness that have nothing to do with the finished work of Christ.
Disclaimer: Story written by an actual ROMAN CATHOLIC PRIEST.
Not exactly an unbiased source.
For example, the artilce states:
three major insurance companies for Protestant Churches in America say they typically receive 260 reports each year of minors being sexually abused by Protestant clergy
and then goes on to say
the Catholic Church has reported that since 1950, 13,000 “credible accusations” have been brought against Catholic clerics (about 228 per year.)
Note the difference. Insurance companies reporting claims, which may or may not be "credible." The other is the Roman Catholic Church self reporting and determining what is and is not credible. The issue is that the Roman Catholic Church has been covering this scandal up for decades, so why do we trust Rome's sudden self disclosure?
AND the issue put forth by the Prods on FR has NEVER been the rape of children by Papist clergy, but the cover-up. Had the Catholic Church conducted itself in a responsible manner and turned the priests over to the authorities as opposed to shuffling them from one unsuspecting congregation to another we wouldn't be having this ongoing discussion.
The interesting thing about these discussion is who FRoman Catholics tend to downplay this tragedy. The claim it's the homosexuals (who were ordained by Rome). It was a teenager who was molested (as if that makes it better). It's Catholic bashing (as if Prods forced the rapes).
The difference here is that the vast majority of Protestant clergy rapes on children results in the wolf in sheep's clothing receiving jail time. We rejoice that justice has been carried out. When one falls through the cracks and is allowed to remain in the pulpit we howl in protest that the entire church leadership should be held accountable.
On FR it is, and has always been, an issue of the coverup. Very few FRoman Catholics will own up to the fact.
"And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with HIM, HAVING FORGIVEN YOU ALL TRESPASSES." (Col. 2:13).
Makes sense to me...They do not confess to God, they confess to a mere man, a priest...The priest is their Church...In their reality, the Church forgives and absolves their sin...
Sadly, if they have not ask God for forgiveness, they have not been forgiven...
How anyone can put their faith in an organization that claims what the RCC does and then covers up the evil is beyond me. Why can’t they see the hypocrisy?
BINGO.
Which is by far and away THE BEST argument going against the blasphemous teaching that man can forgive sins in God's place. To put that kind of power in fallible and easily corruptible man is a recipe for disaster, as we've seen from Catholic church history.
It leaves way to much potential for blackmail and extortion, hanging over people's heads their salvation as the price to pay for non-compliance to Church doctrine and teachings.
. Confession is an act of humbling oneself, a good thing in itself, and we rest assured in believing that whatever the character of the man behind the screen, that God knows our hearts, and that the priest has been given the power to absolve.
Wait a minute, you just said in the previous sentence that it's the church which absolves. Which is it?
1 Peter 5:6-7 6 Humble yourselves, therefore, under the mighty hand of God so that at the proper time he may exalt you, 7 casting all your anxieties on him, because he cares for you.
James 4:10 Humble yourselves before the Lord, and he will exalt you.
In the meantime, Christ's finished work just sits there, unclaimed. They've "changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like unto corruptible men..."Rom. 1:23.
Wow. Speechless, but not typeless, I see. If you can’t read, there’s no argument to be had.
“Many if not all these priests have admitted to sexual abuse,” Boucher said. “They live within a mile of 1,500 playgrounds, schools and daycare centers.”
Self-admitted pedophile priests ≠ "a witchhunt".
whose sins you absolve, they will be absolves; whose sins you retain will be retained. We believe that the Church continued the mission of our Lord, which was to heal and to forgive sins. You are reviving the charge the Pharisees made against out Lord? The Church’s authority to act comes from Christ, who is the head of the Church. How is it that you can claim that same authority for yourself?
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