Posted on 02/11/2012 10:13:46 AM PST by RnMomof7
You left off the "/s"...
If you look at most of the comments to which you object you will find that what they take issue with is the jumping from the guilt of individuals to the attempt to place that guilt upon the entire Church and also falsely imply that it is unique to the Catholic Church.
If you can point out the guilt an actual Fr. A or a Fr B or of a Bishop X or Bishop Y that covered it up then by all means go for it. Indeed, I will be at your side. It is the attempt to change this personal guilt to an institutional guilt that Catholics here find reprehensible.
Concise and to the point.
And to be denied in all likelihood.
LOL! Now that's a stretch - a bad one at that - to suite you own agenda or cover some man made teaching/doctrine of devils. Not wise.
God's Word is The Final Authority - surely, you know that.
OK, who's got the threads on this?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2489752/posts
http://open.salon.com/blog/lost_in_berlin/2010/07/16/bishops_resignation_shifts_attention_to_protestant_abuse
Here are a few to start you off.
These are the confessors who catholics are taught to obey, force themselves if need be, and never question. That would make it an institutional dilemma.
I'd also like to point out that everyone's "favorite" movie director is doing the exact same thing: Michael Moore's anti-Catholic Tweets (Free Republic thread)
I'm just saying...
No. No it doesn't.
Catholics, priest or otherwise, TRY to live up to what Christ preaches. Being human, we all fail.
The fact that vile hatred and lies pour from your lips like sewage says much more about you than anything you could say about anyone else, priest or otherwise.
I also observe that after their done using their favorite bat (the sex abuse scandals), they quickly turn to their real agenda, which is all their various doctrinal “issues” with the Church. Everyone with eyes to see can see through it.
About a year ago, I saw an article that suggested Joe Biden had threatened one of the USCCB leaders (Dolan, or another prominent bishop?) that if the USCCB started enforcing Canon 915, in response the Church could lose its tax exempt status or the government might step up its investigation of “pedophila.” (It seems to me this threat must have had something to do with the removal of Bishop Joseph F. Martino from the Scranton diocese in 2009. The Church did not back him up when he took on Biden.)
Does anyone remember the context of Biden’s threat, its substance, and/or can anyone locate a reference to it now.
I searched for it this week without success.
I expect to see pushback along these lines real soon if the USCCB continues its resistance to the HHS mandate.
And the unwitting allies of the Obama administration will continue posting threads like this on FreeRepublic to try to discredit the Church even in the midst of her fight for their religion freedoms.
If he were an isolated instance it could be laid to one man's bad judgment and/or ignorance but it was more often the norm as critic and monk, Richard Sipe pointed out.
I am calling it just as it is, in fact it's worse than I stated....You say NO No!...I then refer you to these catholic sites and statements made by the Pope:
Pope Benedict xvi states...."When he answers that call, the Pope continued, THE PRIEST REPRESENTS JESUS".
http://www.catholicculture.org/news/headlines/index.cfm?storyid=6023
From the Vatican Site:
1552 The ministerial priesthood has the task not only of representing Christ - Head of the Church - before the assembly of the faithful, but also of acting in the name of the whole Church when presenting to God the prayer of the Church, and above all when offering the Eucharistic sacrifice.31
http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p2s2c3a6.htm and Here:
"The Priest is appointed Christ's representative upon earth, being set as a mediator between Him and men. In one word, the Catholic priest is, as it were, another Christ: Sacerdos alter Christus"
http://www.therealpresence.org/eucharst/priesthd/euchpr02.
and here:
"The text even makes clear how Confession is to be conducted. Christ's representative, the priest,.... must decide whether to forgive or retain."
http://www.ewtn.com/expert/answers/confession_of_sin_to_a_priest.htm
I am certain you realize there are a vast number of catholic sites which could further be depicted here.
Oh baloney!!! This isn't about Freedom...this is about criminal activities done by Priests of the Catholic church PERIOD....... and the 'tactic' to divert attention away from these criminal perverted Priests and Bishops just further attests to those who refuse to acknowledge these crimes and criminals and the huge infestation within the church. Worse it enables those in charge to continue with the cover-up.
The Catholic church is the only one responsible for it being "discredited".....the blame lays squarely on it's doorstep alone...none other.
And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him has written unto you; As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction. Ye therefore, beloved, seeing you know these things before, beware lest you also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness.Note the emphasis added. I do this because, perhaps not so strangely, those who believe in private and personal interpretations of scripture also happen to be those who believe that their inclusion in the final roll of the redeemed is a sure thing, a matter about which Jesus, Peter, and Paul all strenuously warned.
A press release which was released at the hight of the Catholic Church opposing Obama-care mandates.
It's not "others do it too". I see you people really like fabricating quotes. What it is however, is an attempt to rebut the idea being put forth that child molestation is an exclusively Catholic problem.
The problem is, you people get mad when any evidence is presented that shows that it is a lot more widespread OUTSIDE of the Catholic church.
It's almost if you people *don't care* when a child is molested outside of the church. But that would be cyncical of me to state, and since you people have *so much* class, I would never make that accusation.
Lastly, this is an article about people who *are accused*, not convicted, released by a lawyer who has a finacial interest in children being molested, and seeing that those numbers are as high as possible.
Speaking of those who are accused and innocent -so what?
You are looking at this from a purely secular point of view. So what if people who TRULY belong to God are accused of something they did not do? The Word of God makes it very plain that is what will happen to those that truly love God. Joseph is a great example. Paul followers didn't whine either and call people "Paul bashers" when he was falsely accused. What did they do? What are you doing differently? What SHOULD you do?
WHO you stick up for and complain about when they are accused is just a huge neon arrow that points at the god that you are serving. How many of us do that? Instead, we should realize, as Joseph did that God is in control of all things, working thing out for His good pleasure. And as Paul exhorts us - to be content in all circumstances.
Be careful who (or Who) you defend. It speaks volumes.
Yeah, right.
But anyway, a press release from a lawyer who has a financial interest in the issue (the original post) should be taken at face value by Catholics, right? On the eve of the Obama-care birth control mandate issue?
That's why y'all get so frothing mad when people like Salvation show that your own side of the street isn't so spotless.
It also shows that protecting *the children* isn't quite at the top of your agenda.
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