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1 posted on 02/13/2012 4:48:06 PM PST by NYer
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2 posted on 02/13/2012 4:49:01 PM PST by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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Ha Ha! Catholics got what they voted for. Our King and dictator has spoken with all the authority of Lucifer.
3 posted on 02/13/2012 4:50:18 PM PST by Logical me
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FUBO!


4 posted on 02/13/2012 4:51:32 PM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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5 posted on 02/13/2012 4:51:45 PM PST by narses
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So far it seems your church leaders are holding strong in opposing this, but your Catholic Charities embraced the “compromise”. Lets hope your leadership sees the error of embracing “social justice” policies using govt tax dollars and will inspire your members to vote out all Rats.


7 posted on 02/13/2012 4:55:38 PM PST by wmfights
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You only think you are done but you will have the Supreme court to talk to. Other religions and people of values will be talking to you and courts. This is not done.
8 posted on 02/13/2012 4:57:26 PM PST by mountainlion (I am voting for Sarah after getting screwed again by the DC Thugs.)
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Oh no you are not done negotiating with Catholics. We will be there in November.


9 posted on 02/13/2012 4:59:26 PM PST by maxwellsmart_agent
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First check this site our
http://richochet.com/
Rhabe’s comments should be reviewed

This was posted in Britebarts Big Government and compiled by Jason Pollak but the significance is that the position has nothing to do with “health” but with implementing a government policy

ObamaCare Architect: Catholic Institutions Should Provide Birth Control as ‘Moral Imperative’ to Stop Population Growth
by Joel B. Pollak Robert Creamer–Democrat strategist, Obama 2008 campaign aide, and political architect of ObamaCare–argues that the new contraceptive mandate for Catholic institutions isn’t really about equality for women, or religious liberty.

Rather, it is about population control.

Creamer–like his wife, the pro-abortion Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D-IL)–embraces the left-wing fallacy that children are a burden on the planet, which the state should encourage the church–and everyone else–to limit.

At 6:16-7:03 in the video below, by CNS News, Schakowsky describes abortion as “most often” a “responsible decision” to control the size of their families:

Writing in the Huffington Post yesterday, Creamer declared:

…[T]here is a worldwide consensus that the use of birth control is one of society’s most important moral priorities. Far from being something that should be discouraged, or is controversial, the use of birth control is critical to the survival and success of humanity….It is simply not possible for this small planet to sustain that kind of exponential human population growth. If we do, the result will be poverty, war, the depletion of our natural resources and famine. Fundamentally, the Reverend [Thomas] Malthus was right–except that the result is not inevitable….That’s why it is our moral imperative to act responsibly and encourage each other to use birth control.

Malthus’s late eighteenth and early nineteenth-century views, which still inspire much of today’s environmental movement, have been repeatedly disproved over the course of two centuries. Economic freedom, growth and innovation have made human society vastly more productive and efficient.

It is precisely because radical socialists like Creamer, Schakowsky and Obama detest the free economy that they continue to rely on old Malthusian and Marxist ideas.

Regardless, the indication by Creamer that the contraception mandate is not about “equality,” but population growth, suggests that the Obama administration’s challenge to the beliefs of the Catholic church may be more direct–and deliberate–than was previously suspected.

My coment

Eugenics.,is a basic tenet of socialism which includes the whole range of the “isms”. The new religions created by Marx, Lennin, and Fascists that mandates its followers practice population control, through abortion or sterilization and of course “mercy killing”. By edict Obama has not just violated the constitution by imposing a set of practices and their accompanying expences refuted by a religious group but has also sought to impose a belief system which is a defacto religion on another religious group...The results of this edict has not only created deep divisions within the groups affected which begs the question of the intent of result by the edicts issuance.

Defenders of this action quickly point to the regime decision to do so as its right because they are recipients of government funds. Those defenders convieniently ignore the fact that members of the groups affected have originally contributed those funds and were exempted from paying such costs resulting from and observing such practices that are now imposed upon them by the Obama regime.

Obama knows what h is doing . He will rely of statist media to follow up remind their readers of past transgressions by peophiles...exploit the differences by the CINOS It is an attempt to divide the church.


12 posted on 02/13/2012 5:05:58 PM PST by mosesdapoet ("The best way to punish a country is let professors run it. Fredrick the Great)
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Newsflash to White House: It’s not just the Catholics you’ll be dealing with. You’ve pissed off all religions by denying religious freedom to American citizens.

Newsflash to all the Catholics who voted for this asshole in ‘08: Don’t worry; we evangelicals who didn’t vote for him, because we we knew what/who he was/is, will fight your fight and try to clean up the mess you helped create.


14 posted on 02/13/2012 5:15:26 PM PST by MayflowerMadam (Don't blame me; I voted for the American.)
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Obama v. the Body of Christ. My wager is on the latter being victorious.


15 posted on 02/13/2012 5:19:02 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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Oh good.

Let every person of the Christian faith remember this day as the day Obama and the Democrats told them to go pound salt.


19 posted on 02/13/2012 5:24:07 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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"very deep belief that a woman has a right to all forms of preventive health care"

Since when is any form of health care a right?

Why preventative health care? Does that mean that the government should pay for my toothpaste and dental floss?

Why only women's health? Isn't that sexist?

How are morning after pills "preventive" with regard to the health of the woman? They are merely "preventive" of life for the unborn.

I have to give Obama and his minions credit for including that much nonsense in so short a sentence. He is really pushing the envelope on sheer idiocy.

Every village needs and idiot. Obama could qualify as every village's idiot!

26 posted on 02/13/2012 5:36:36 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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The King has spoken. . .So; okay; how many Catholics ‘get it’. How many Christians? How many American citizens, ‘get it’?


29 posted on 02/13/2012 5:37:38 PM PST by cricket (. It is not just the economy, stupid.)
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contraceptive rule is done deal

until January 21

30 posted on 02/13/2012 5:37:38 PM PST by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class!)
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This is a “freedom of religion” issue but I hope people will also recognize that its a “rule by decree” issue as well.


32 posted on 02/13/2012 5:42:37 PM PST by marron
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37 posted on 02/13/2012 5:50:31 PM PST by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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In ancient America, debate and negotiation took place while a bill was being written. In modern neo-Marxist Amerika, we have to pass a bill (using bribes in the Ill-Annoy pay-to-play tradition) before we're allowed to see what's in it.

Then the team of Czars at the White Crib issue fatwas and edicts that we all have to accept, follow, and take up as the undeniable dogma of the Party of Death. Get with it! It's a brave new world out there, folks.

The Bill of Rights and Constitution are valued like toilet paper (maybe less valued), since it is a charter of negative liberties as deemed by the current occupant of the White Crib.

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants." - DJ Tommy Jay

38 posted on 02/13/2012 5:51:49 PM PST by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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This approach from Øbongo & co is so completely insane I had to look to see if it was one of your satires. Sadly, this one is real.


41 posted on 02/13/2012 5:56:53 PM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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We gave Ubama enough rope to hang himself with, and he did!

Thank you, Barry!

42 posted on 02/13/2012 6:04:47 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the fascists.)
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"We are going to finalize it in the final rules, but I think what the president announced on Friday is a balanced approach that meets the concerns raised both in terms of access to health care and in terms of protecting religious liberties, and we think that's the right approach."

Of particular note, Obama has framed the argument as associated with protecting religious 'liberties', not 'rights'.

In Obama's thinking, the people are allowed to worship somebody other than him only because he allows that 'liberty'.

43 posted on 02/13/2012 6:18:34 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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