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To: exDemMom; Alamo-Girl; allmendream; metmom
The principle that evolution is a process of genetic change over time, and that those changes occur at a relatively steady rate.

Yes. We all know that doctrine is sacrosanct. It must not be doubted, let alone questioned.

The only problem is, the paleontological record does not lend a whole lot of support to the macroevolutionary aspects of Darwin's theory.

Even Richard Dawkins is aware of the problem of "missing" intermediate fossil forms.

...[T]he Cambrian strata of rocks ... are the oldest in which we find most of the major invertibrate groups. And we find many of them already in an advanced state of evolution, the very first time they appear. It is as though they were just planted there, without any evolutionary history. [Dawkins, The Blind Watchmaker, 1987.]

If Darwin's theory is correct — that evolution is a process of gradualism, or as you say, a process of transformations occurring at "a relatively steady rate" — then where are the "missing fossils" in the run-up to the Cambrian Explosion, c. 500,000 B.C.?

I do not argue for Lamarck's theory either.

Thanks so much for writing, exDemMom, and for the valuable link!

359 posted on 02/25/2012 3:27:37 PM PST by betty boop (We are led to believe a lie when we see with, and not through the eye. — William Blake)
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360 posted on 02/25/2012 8:37:39 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: betty boop

Very well put Betty Boop!


363 posted on 02/25/2012 8:59:45 PM PST by BrandtMichaels
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To: betty boop; BrandtMichaels; metmom
I'm so glad you raised the Cambrian Explosion, dearest sister in Christ!

To your remarks, I'd like to add Dr. Gerald Schroeder's article on Evolution: Rationality v Randomness which includes this comment:

With this background, let's look at the process of evolution. Life is in essence a symbiotic combination of proteins (and other structures, but here I'll discuss only the proteins). The history of life teaches us that not all combinations of proteins are viable. At an event recorded in the fossil record and known as the Cambrian explosion of animal life, some 50 phyla (basic body plans) suddenly and simultaneously appeared in the fossil record. This is the first appearance of complex animal life. Only 30 to 34 of the phyla survived. The rest perished. Since then the fossil record and modern existing biota reveal that no new phyla have evolved. At a later stage in the flow of life, a catastrophic event (possibly the collision of the earth with a massive comet or meteor) eliminated 90% of all life forms. The ecology was wide open for new phyla to develop. Again, no new phyla appear. The implication is that only a limited number of life forms (phyla) are viable.

It is no wonder that the most widely read science journal, Scientific American, asked "has the mechanism of evolution altered in ways that prevent fundamental changes in body plans of animals" (November 1992). It is not that the mechanism of evolution has changed; it is our understanding of how evolution functions that must change to fit the data presented by the fossil record and by the discoveries of molecular biology.


368 posted on 02/25/2012 10:18:24 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: betty boop
The only problem is, the paleontological record does not lend a whole lot of support to the macroevolutionary aspects of Darwin's theory.

The only difference between "microevolutionary" and "macroevolutionary" (as they relate to the ToE, and NOT as portrayed by advocates of "creation science") is the time scale.

The paleontological record most certainly supports the ToE; observations made on the basis of that record were what led to the formulation of the various competing ToEs in the first place.

I'm not going to comment on Richard Dawkins' quote; without seeing its context, I can guess that he goes on to explain why the fossil record behaves more like snapshots taken at random intervals than a continuous record, but I don't know.

Now, as far as the gradualism goes--most small, gradual changes won't appear in the fossil record. A single amino acid change that makes a trans-membrane calcium transporter able to pull calcium into cells at a lower serum calcium concentration is unlikely to show up in the fossil record. However, we might be able to observe that "newer" fossils exist in an area where the soil contains less calcium than where the "older" fossils were found. Our best bet of revealing such a minute change would be in finding some ancient DNA that we can analyze--but, given the instability of DNA, finding that DNA happens quite rarely. So, in order to build a more complete picture, we have to compare what we know of DNA mutation rates from various other lines of research.

A characteristic of evolutionary research is that there is no single line of evidence that fully supports the evolutionary picture. We have, instead, millions of pieces of disparate evidence that we must piece together like a giant puzzle, we have no picture on the cover of the box to guide us, and most of the pieces are missing.

Technically speaking, every one of us is a "transitional" form. The only pieces of DNA that are passed (mostly) unchanged from parent to child would be the mitochondrial DNA (remnant of ancient bacteria that lived inside other cells) from the mother, and the Y chromosome from the father.

382 posted on 02/26/2012 7:23:09 AM PST by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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